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      If she wants to win, she needs to be out there today pushing back against the regime. Instead, there’s crickets. That’s a “No” vote from me.

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        Especially since she solicited donations after losing SPECIFICALLY to “fight Trump” and then just fucked off the second she conceded, yeah, she needs to at least pretend to give a shit.

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      Hear me out: What if we primary one candidate and then after the primaries swap the candidate? Fixing crazy right?

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      Pfft, we know the desires of the voters don’t matter to the DNC. They’ll put forward whatever milkwater, centre-right, AIPAC-suckling sycophant they like the most.

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        DNC seems to be incapable of learning. They will ignore their voters, gavage a candidate/platform that they want, act all surprised when they lose, then cover up their report that explains why they are losers.

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      She hasn’t won one on the federal level. 2020 she dropped out and was unpopular in California. She wasn’t involved in 2024 and forced into the position. She isnt popular anywhere.

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    NO

    GET. THE FUCK. AWAY.

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    IMO she very likely did win the 2024 election given the real examples of election fraud by republics. As much as she choked in the final stretch I don’t think she was the biggest factor in Trumps win.

    But at best she’d be too little to late. Even Bernie, AOC… USA is too far gone for one leader/movement to fix things.

    Nothing short of a generational shift-change in administration will move needle in the right direction.

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      We’re doing a big lie 2.0 democrat edition now? The fact is she started from behind, was making serious ground, and completely fumbled by pivoting to moderate Republicans.

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          15 hours ago

          Changing voting laws is absolutely how the GOP is trying to rig elections. That’s not a mystery or even in doubt. It’s the people that are claiming voting machines were rigged that are preaching the big lie 2.0.

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            Changing voting laws is absolutely how the GOP is trying to rig elections.

            Changing laws is, like 1 of 30 different ways the GOP is trying to rig elections.

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                • Gerrymandering

                • Fake electors

                • Being suspiciously cozy with the business owners of voting machine companies

                • Voter intimidation by posting ICE/CBP at polls

                • Voter intimidation by stochastic terrorism using their most rabid followers

                • Closing polling places in liberal areas to cause longer lines at the few remaining locations

                • New voter ID laws, including that one that could disenfranchise anyone who has ever changed their name (especially married women and trans people)

                • Trying to make voting by mail illegal

                • Trying to invalidate mail-in votes by any means possible

                • Calling election officials and asking them to “”“find”“” just enough votes to change the outcome

                • Trying to cancel the election entirely due to some “emergency” bullshit (despite the US never having canceled a single election in its entire history, including during the Civil War)

                • Chanting to stop the count when they’re ahead, and chanting to keep counting when they’re behind

                • Filing dozens of (failed) court cases in attempts to overturn election results

                …to name a few.

                Maybe I was being hyperbolic with “30”. Maybe. We’re at 14 now. I bet if you dig deep enough, you can find at least 30 ways the GOP is trying to rig elections.

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                  • Gerrymandering doesn’t help with national elections like the presidential election

                  • Fake electors is legit, but didn’t get used

                  • Suspicion isn’t evidence

                  • ICE wasn’t at the polls for 2024 that I’m aware of

                  I don’t feel the need to continue as your list seems mostly speculative of future elections and not relevant to the 2024 election.

                  Edit: I do want to be clear that most of these are very valid concerns for future elections. Just not when discussing Harris losing.

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            Yea so go talk to those people instead of me. Like did you just not bother to read everything I wrote? All 3 sentences?? FFS.

            People like you muddy the waters with your lazy engagement style.

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              That’s an overreaction. Not only did I read your comment, I also read through the Wikipedia entry you posted. Hence why I referenced the topic it covered. I don’t know what your problem is, but it’s not with me.

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                  Then why did my post address the topic you talked about? Again, you seem to have a problem, but it’s not with me.

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        There were significant statistical aberrations and deviations in more than a few swing districts, in terms of the vote spread over time. And there were shockingly sweeping changes made to the configuration files of voting machines very shortly before the election. And the companies that make and deploy the electronic voting machines we use nationwide are largely controlled by a small handful of companies that have a… shall we say, deeply suspicious quantity and depth of personal ties to right-wing mega donors and politicians.

        Nothing conclusive, unfortunately… but that’s also because they’ve destroyed most of the data in places where it’s not illegal to do so (which is most places).

        So no, it’s not actually tin-foil-hatty to be skeptical of the veracity of the outcome of the 2024 election. Unfortunately, there’s essentially fuck-all anyone can do about it at this point.

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            I did read it. And this is the only part that matters

            Nothing conclusive, unfortunately…

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          If there’s proof, maybe she should have done something about it instead of folding? Anything to keep the falsehood of our democracy alive?

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            Yep. As soon as she conceded, it legally doesn’t matter if the Trump campaign cheated. When she conceded the election, that locked in the result, regardless of what might come to light later.

            My pet theory is that Dems don’t want election rigging to come to light … because then people might start looking at the primaries as well.

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              So Harris should have tried harder and chose not to. What a candidate.

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            Their own post says

            Nothing conclusive, unfortunately…

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        Couldn’t possibly be that the unpopular candidate lost an popularity contest…

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          Exactly. A candidate that was behind in the polls and prediction markets lost. No conspiracy needed.

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    One of the most unpopular candidates in history and everything she says and does makes her even more unpopular. Yeah good luck with that!