I remember a time when zionist was not a label people wanted to wear because of the extreme views.
Calling him the leader of Zionism is quite a stretch. I don’t think anyone really used that word until the last few years.
This article romanticizes the anti Israel political view. I’m not exactly a big fan of Israel or the mass killings they have become known for but we also need to be mindful to not fall into the trap of confirmation bias.
Calling him the leader of Zionism is quite a stretch. I don’t think anyone really used that word until the last few years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
Theodor Herzl was the founder of the modern Zionist movement. In his 1896 pamphlet Der Judenstaat, he envisioned the founding of a future independent Jewish state during the 20th century.
By the beginning of the 20th century, the Zionist movement, now led by Theodor Herzl, associated this national revival with Palestine, then under Ottoman rule.[8][9] The arrival of Zionist settlers to Palestine during this period is widely seen as the start of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.[10][11][12] The Zionist claim to Palestine was based on the notion that the Jews’ historical right to the land outweighed that of the Arabs.[13]
If you haven’t yet, you should absolutely read “The Question of Palestine” by Edward Said. Its like 200 pages and he covers Hertzl, and a bunch of other early zionists, as well as prominent post-founding zionists like Ben Gurion. They honestly just say the quiet part out loud shamelessly. It’s completely indefensible if you read it. The only reason that we can even have “debate” about the nature of the state of Israel is because your average person “debating” Israel is totally ignorant of the history.
“after the [Second World| war the question of the land of Israel and the question of the Jews would be raised beyond the framework of “development”; amongst ourselves. it must be clear that there is no room for hoth peoples inthis country. No “development” will bring us closer to our aim. to be an independent people in this small country. If the Arabs leave the country, it will be broad and wide-open for us. And if the Arabs stay, the country will remain narrow and miserable. When the War is over and the English have won, and when the judges sit on the throne of Law, our people must bring their petitions and their claim before them; and the only solution is Eretz Israel, or at least Western Eretz Israel, without Arabs. There is no room for compromise on this point! The Zionist enterprise so far, in terms of preparing the ground and paving the way for the creation of the Hebrew State in the land of Israel, has been fine and good in its own time, and could do with ‘‘land-buying ’— but this will not bring about the State of Israel; that must come all at once, in the manner of a Salvation (this is the secret of the Messianic idea); and there is no way besides transferring the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries, to transfer them all: except maybe for Bethlehem, Nazareth and Old Jerusalem, we must not leave a single village, not a single tribe. And the transfer must be directed to Iraq, to Syria, and even to Transjordan. For that purpose we’ll find money, and a lot of money. And only with such a transfer will the country be able to absorb millions of our brothers, and the Jewish question shall be solved, once and for all. There is no other way out. [Emphases added]" ~Joesph Weitz
“There are 40% non-Jews in the areas allocated to the Jewish state. This composition is not a solid basis for a Jewish state. And we have to face this new reality with all its severity and distinctness. Such a demographic balance questions our ability to maintain Jewish sovereignty… Only a state with at least 80% Jews is a viable and stable state.” ~David Ben Gurion
For my 10th grade year at Jewish Sunday school, we had to write a long essay about a Jewish icon. I was gonna write about Theodore Herzl and Zionism, until I learned what Zionism meant from a modern and political standpoint. Then, I became disgusted.
Instead, I wrote about why backlash from the Jewish community towards Sacha Baron Cohen was an overreaction since he provided a fresh representation of Judaism in the media. Guess I was wrong…
From his book, Der Judenstaat:
“Und fügt es sich, daß auch Andersgläubige, Andersnationale unter uns wohnen, so werden wir ihnen einen ehrenvollen Schutz und die Rechtsgleichheit gewähren.”
“And should it happen that people of other faiths and other nationalities live amongst us, we shall grant them honourable protection and equal rights.”
Looks like misinformation, OP.
Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895
The property owners will come over to our side. According to my conception, the majority of the local population will have to be transferred elsewhere.
We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country.
Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly
The quote from his diary certainly is genuine, and it relates to what Herzl calls the “taking of the land” (Landnahme, obviously a reference to the biblical episode of the Israelites taking over Canaan). As is visible here in the german original text, Herzl talks about winning over the local land-owning population by luring away “the poors”.

This is abject nonsense bordering on misinformation. Herzl quite famously envisioned a future state in which Jews, Arabs, and others lived in harmony and mutual benefit.
Herzl is also not the founder of Zionism, a 3000 year old concept, but of the particular European branch of Modern Political Zionism.
Nice try
Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895
The property owners will come over to our side. According to my conception, the majority of the local population will have to be transferred elsewhere.
We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country.
Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly
He is the main founder of Zionism. At the time, the vast majority of jews thought he wasn’t right in the head.
Zion is mentioned 152 times in the Hebrew Bible, a 3000 year old book. Unless you are also suggesting he is a time traveler?
It’s not a new idea. Read what I wrote above.
You’re right that many people were skeptical of his utopian view of multicultural harmony.
It is like saying islamist is very old concept because the word islam existed way before
The map of “Greater Israel” as laid out by Theodor Hertzl.
Looks a lot like a list of all the countries Israel has been picking a fight with recently, huh?
I wonder why??

I love the arbitrarily straight line through Kuwait and Saudi. It looks like they were real keen to follow the Euphrates but then just kind of gave up just before the gulf, claimed a third of Kuwait and then just drew a line straight to the red sea and and arbitrary part of Egypt …
Looks to me like they’re juet vaguely aiming for the “greener” parts of Saudi Arabia, where there happen to be 3 national parks, and avoiding the desert-only bits which they can’t be bothered trying to manage (see: Dune)
There is something very satisfying to me about the borders but i think that’s just because they chose rivers as boundaries AND added in that sharp geometric line

except Egypt.
Idk about that, but Herzl did say that antisemites in Europe would be one of the strongest allies of Zionism
Herzl was a Jesuit yes man who happened to be a Khazar. I knew he was all for that, but I didn’t know it was 7 years before he founded Political Zionism.
Zionism is the first nationalist doctrine, evil in its essence, the inspiration for all nationalist doctrines including Nazism. It is sad that some try to portray Zionism as a benign ideology. An evil that must be thrown into the same bin as Nazism, fascism and religious fanaticism.
It answers the question which came first, the Zionist or the Nazi?
The Zionist, Herzl invented it in 1897. Most Nazis were however Zionists themselves.
Looks like Oscar Isaacs in a particularly villainous role - the
greater the beard length-short hair ratiothe longer the beard, and the shorter and rounder the hair is, the more villainous his character will be. Don’t know if ya’ll have noticed that or not.examples

I’ll tuck that fact right beside the Haavara Agreement with the Nazis. Neocolonialism gonna neocolonize.
If you will it, it is no dream.
i am the walrus
Were you listening to The Dude’s story?
Edit: for context the first clip is an extract from a book by an early Zionist talking about the racial pseudoscience and justifications behind the Zionist project.











