Should be a picture of students flipping of Trump for ordering the bombings
A lot of Iranians are cheering for the attacks on the regime. It’s a really shit situation, the orange turd shouldn’t have ever attacked Iran, but the regime has killed tens of thousands of protesters, and jailed many more, a large portion of them being students.
Neither side has clean hands on this one. The US just shouldn’t be playing world police again.
What kind of world do we live in that sports players have to make these statements instead of members of government doing whats needed.
How long before Trump and the republicans start shouting and calling themselves victims of this “despicable attack?”
Those might be backpack nukes. We had to take them out. You can never be too cateful…
A quiet gesture that speaks louder than any statement.
*Football. American spy, you outed yourself. ;)
Could be a Canadian too haha. We unfortunately inherit some Americanisms here
I’m so sorry. I don’t feel like we have any culture worth exporting.
Its amazing how shitty the US is behaving, to the point where the theocratic authoritarian government of Iran is looking like the good guys.
It’s an authoritarian theocracy. How the fuck is the bar to be better than them so low, yet they still fuck it up?
We watched with disgust as Israel genocided Gaza, but Trump watched it and said “My turn!”
Most people don’t seem to be able to view both sides as bad. I feel for civilians on all sides, because they are the ones dying and suffering. Caught between murderous assholes.
yeah, its not a binary bad/good issue and it never has been. Most issues arent, they are about proportion. Islam is poor on womens and gay rights for example, but that doesnt mean any person murdering muslims is simply off the hook because Israel generally does better on those issues (assuming the woman or gay person is not muslim, in which case israel says to murder them)
People these days who claim that Israeli crimes are fine because Muslim countries have problems are victims or perpetrators of Israeli propoganda, all with the net goal of land theft to build a greater israel. All of the middle east’s murders and war crimes are about acquiring oil and land theft. And while there may not be any 100% good guys, there are some really really REALLY bad guys, and western governments are siding with the greatest evils in the region.
Feel exactly the same as an american. No one here wanted to get involved. It defies party lines, literally no one wants it. We had the largest protest in our country’s history on Saturday and they will do nothing. It wastes billions of our tax dollars while our people can’t afford food. Its a couple of dozen people at the absolute top who are pulling the levers here, while ignoring what the people want.
It doesn’t defy party lines any more. MAGA just took a few weeks to receive their newest orders from daddy.
That makes sense, they seemed mad for about a day about the gas prices and now I guess they just grabbed a bottle of lube instead of demanding it stop.
Meanwhile I actually know personally TWO people who went out and bought EVs! In car centric transit deserts where they have to drive. Both had some form of “I’ve been debating a new car for a while and this made my decision not to use gas”. So a very thin silver lining that people are at least thinking about it.
The Iran war is all a big ruse from Big Musky to sell more Teslas? I’m joking of course, but there is some Technate of America ties there. More so with Venezuela, Cuba, Columbia, Ecuador, and Greenland. But that’s way too deep of a rabbit hole…
TBH i dont think that those at the top care what you want…
Exactly the problem unfortunately. It’s extremely demoralizing. I’m still proud, like I said the largest protest in our history, I’ve never seen more Americans this motivated before, but I hope the organizers plan to do something. They don’t care about protests. They just let them go knowing everyone will go back to work the next morning. However, if they go too far the propaganda machine will simply pick up and say whatever it needs to and people eat it up happily. My uncle steadfastly believes that the majority of protesters are in fact “paid actors”. Millions of paid actors. Billions of dollars spent on it obviously.
So if you don’t want it, why aren’t you stopping it or trying to overthrow the government? Your biggest protest was 2% or so of the population.
~98% don’t give a shit, they might care about their petrol prices but that’s it. Dead Iranian children and US foreign policy isn’t a deal breaker for them.
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The bar was on the ground, and magats brought a backhoe.
Anyway who act suprise should read history book. Since civil war ended, the US has always been a military based economy and always been shitty.
It just now being forced in front of people faces as they cannot easily control the internet anymore. Although with AI advancement I wouldn’t be surprised they pass a bill to control what information a person read online, either by a basic firewall rules or by phone screen readers that can alter and block information on the fly.
It will start with (porn) and (child sexual content) then blaming Russia and Iran to then being the norm.
Everytime they lose control of media they have to scale back their shitty behavior before starting again.
the theocratic authoritarian government of Iran is looking like the good guys
It’s almost as though Americans have been brainwashed to believe brown people with the wrong religion are inherently evil. And, as a consequence, they find themselves on the side of a genocidal regime that venerates child murder.
It’s an authoritarian theocracy.
The Iranian government is a bunch of evil assholes, just like the Israeli and US governments. This is a case where the “both sides are equal” is true. It’s not long ago that the Iranian government murdered thousands of their citizens and they have been oppressing their people for decades. It’s just that they have been attacked by equally evil cunts.
The Iranian government is a bunch of evil assholes, just like the Israeli and US governments.
The need to paint everything in broad brush “Good v Evil” is what legitimizes these wars to begin with. The idea that you’re doing anyone a favor by bombing them should be ridiculous on its face. But we consistently build up this narrative of the Just War, we declare everyone we don’t like is Hitler, and then we throw more and more of the planet into the “Hitler” bucket when they aren’t along for the ride once the bombs land.
It’s just that they have been attacked by equally evil cunts.
When you kill off all the nice guys, what you’re left with are the assholes. The Iranian government is the end result of this multi-generational culling process. The American and Israeli governments are, too.
Obviously they’re both evil, but calling them “equal” feels like hegemonic propaganda. What makes them equal?
Over the years, Iran has murdered 10s of thousands of people. Over the decades, a good estimate is in the hundreds of thousands of people murdered.
For the American and Israeli death tolls, you’re going to have to add two zeroes to those numbers.
The Iranian murders are a rounding error when compared to the death America has been exporting for decades.
Thats mostly due to lack of ability, not lack of desire. Do you think that if the socioeconomic positions were reversed, the current Iranian regime would have been any better than the US, or Israel?
You can quibble about death toll amounts and functional ability… but that doesn’t change desire.
I do believe thinking in “equal to” terms needlessly belittles the death and destruction perpetrated by these tools… but only as much as quantifying them at all. These people are sick, twisted megalomaniacal dickbags who should be brought low. Sadly that only seems to happen at the whims of other sick, twisted megalomaniacal dickbags.
The best we can do is try and wedge ourselves into the cracks to push them all out of power while trying to stave off the opportunists who try and do the same.
And not bicker amongst ourselves about the level of evilness to quantify each by.
Why does desire matter?
I have a desire to kill billionaires. Does that matter? Should I be tried for murder? No, because I’m not actually going to kill anyone.
Putting violent desire on the same moral plane as actual murder victims is a silly thing to do.
Do you think that if the socioeconomic positions were reversed, the current Iranian regime would have been any better than the US, or Israel?
In this hypothetical the details really matter, but in general I think no, the current Iranian regime would not be better.
I think a better hypothetical would be that, if the US never did a coup in Iran and overthrow their democratically elected government, and the socioeconomic positions were reversed, would Iran be better then? I think yes.
It seems like u are forgetting Iran finances a lot of Islamistic terror groups like Hisbollah, Hamas, Huthi, etc. that cause unrest in the whole region.
I’m not forgetting that at all. I have critical support for Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Huthis in their struggle for freedom and territorial integrity against genocidal Israel.
It is Israel’s invasions and apartheid that causes unrest in the whole region.
America has funded more terror groups in the region than Iran has.
And in terms of numbers of dead, the number of people killed by Iran’s proxies is just another rounding error.
Oh, please. That’s nitpicking bullshit. Nobody is trying to downplay the pure evil the US have brought to the world for decades. But acting as if the Iranian regime isn’t as bad just because they don’t tallied the same numbers is idiotic. I’d argue it’s simply a lack of opportunity. All of those fuckers would make the world instantly better by dropping dead. That includes the governments in the US, Israel, Iran, Russia and China at the very least, plus a load of billionaires.
I don’t think it’s nitpicking at all. There is a serious difference between thousands of dead and millions of dead.
Anyone who ignores that reality is downplaying the evil that the US has wrought.
This is a case where the “both sides are equal” is true.
Absolutely not. The Iranian regime has a lot of blood on its hands, both at home and abroad, but it doesn’t even come close to the sheer amount of evil exercised by Israel and America. The worst thing the Ayatollah regime has ever done was support the Assad regime during the Syrian Civil War. That’s obviously evil as fuck, but it looks downright cute compared to Israel’s literal genocide and America’s War on Terror (let alone its even worse historical crimes). In this class of absurd evil, killing a few thousand people is literally a rounding error.
Im assuming youre not counting domestic evils, then.
Like I said, compared to the sheer scale of horror inflicted by these countries’ foreign policy, a few thousand dead protesters is a rounding error. What domestic evil committed by any of these countries compares to this?
Interesting that the thousands of protesters that this authoritarian theocracy murdered just a little while ago are so easily forgotten with the latest headlines. Sure, the US’s “kill chain” is all kinds of fucked up right now, and its leadership is absolutely child-like, but surely Iran’s leadership can’t be forgiven and pronounced “better” that quickly and easily.
I assume you’re comparing US’s leadership to Iran’s leadership, not comparing their football teams.
Usually, when a foreign power tries to “liberate” another country, they don’t go and bomb civilian installations indiscriminately on the literal first day of conflict. Also, dealing with your own government is one thing: dealing with a foreign government who’s much bigger and stronger as a regular civilian is pretty much impossible. Iranians do not like their government, but they don’t want someone else to change it - they want to do it themselves, and you can’t really do that if a foreign government is bombing you to smithereens as much as they’re bombing your government.
It is inherently authoritarian to think you can “liberate” another country on your terms without regard for the ordinary folk there. This is what America gets wrong time and time again. America may (and may is doing a lot of heavy lifting here) be a democracy but it’s foreign policy track record shows that it doesn’t actually care to support democracy around the world. It cares to support its national interests and that’s all. The rest is blowing hot air and virtue signalling.
Hence why I put it in quotes. Trying to use force doesn’t work most of the time.
I assume you’re comparing US’s leadership to Iran’s leadership, not comparing their football teams.
I’ve got a bone to pick with Ghalenoei, but that’s nothing compared to the behaviour of Pochettino.
Americans have been posting those “Before the Shah” photos of women in bikinis for so long. I gotta wonder how they’re going to respond to a bunch of dead little gi-
Oh, nope. It’s racist slurs. They’re just screaming slurs.
First saw those photos on a Reddit post 18 years ago. Always was a weird vibe in the comment section.
Those’ll come in handy the next time they apply for asylum.
and for all the thousands of teenagers the irgc killed the month before right? or does this propaganda only go one way?
also sorry to hear the iranian soccer team were told to do this otherwise their families would be shot just for it to be spread willingly by westerners :(
Have you ever been told you’re a piece of shit?
hey! here yes, everywhere else no
this place is filled with autistic toddlers on meth though, so that doesn’t really bother me
sorry to hear iranian propaganda works really well on you though, maybe next time elect a better president
