I don’t intend to offend anyone with this post, it’s purely based on my own theorising and observations, having interacted with people who have autistic traits, and people with psychopathic traits. I’ve also studied a lot of history, and specifically looked into the people behind certain events, not just the events themselves. I also detest the idea that people with psychopathic traits are “monsters”, as this is a harmful way of looking at people, who at the end of the day are just as human as anyone else.
When you look at each of these traits, you can see that they are the opposite of each other. An autistic person is limited in their ability to engage in many activities, due to sensory issues, overwhelming feelings etc. A psychopathic person has none of these issues, they are completely “free” to do as they please, no remorse, no emotions or conscience to stop them from doing as they wish.
Both conditions are characterised by antisocial behavior, impulsiveness, inability to control their behavior in a social setting(not always the case).
The concept of “masking” is the same in both cases. Some psychopaths don’t mask at all, these are typically repeat violent offenders, who function completely at the whim of their impulses and have no regard for any consequences of their actions. Some autistic people also don’t mask, they seem to be completely unaware of their own condition, and don’t seem to notice that other people may find their manners uncomfortable.
And some people mask very well, to the point where it’s impossible for someone to tell who the real person is behind the mask. Sometimes the mask slips, for a psychopath this might mean showing an emotion that is not commonly associated with the situation unfolding, or an autistic person might go into too much detail about their Warhammer collection.
Autistic people are at risk of being the victims of different types of crimes, for example sexual assaults, due to their inability of reading social cues. Whereas psychopaths are often perpetrators of these crimes, as they often are extremely skilled at detecting vulnerability in a person, and exploiting those weaknessess.
I also believe that psychopathy is a spectrum, similar to autism. You could categorise it on a scale of 0-100%, 100% being a completely emotionless, remorseless and predatory psychopath, and in the case of autism being a nonverbal, socially regressed person who needs constant care.
When you look at a lot of serial killers for example, their “empathy” is very selective. They can brutally murder a specific group of people, without seeing them as human beings, but somehow draw the line at killing elderly women for example. My theory is that these people don’t actually feel empathy, they project their own feelings onto the world. In this case, a person like this might have lost their grandmother at a young age, and remembers how bad they felt about it. Hence, they see killing a grandmother as something that is bad. Whereas most people can feel empathy towards someone who for example lost their dog, even if they personally didn’t have any pets themselves.
I think autistic people feel somewhat similarly, they often struggle expressing empathy towards something they don’t personally understand.
Absolutely…if you have a fundamental misunderstanding of both conditions
99.99% of the people online talking about ASPD or autism have no fucking clue what they’re talking about
Do you? If you have a contradictory opinion, why don’t you share it?
I do, but that’s because I have a useless psychology degree…
If you want to learn stuff, it’s easiest to just ask questions first instead of saying a whole bunch of incorrect things and catching an attitude when people don’t spend a lot of time explaining each and everything you don’t understand.
Like, even if someone did that, there’s no way anyone would read all of it.
Someone acting like you are would just want to “argue” against scientific consensus despite not understanding.
Like, what does the other person gain from teaching you that would motivate that level of effort?
There really isn’t a “scientific consensus” about either of these conditions, there’s no conclusion on what causes either of them, except that both are heritable and there’s a genetic component. I’ve discussed this with a professor of forensic psychiatry who works in a psychiatric prison, surely you could make a TL:DR summary of your stance, if you claim to have the expertise.
Buddy, you just made four false claims that would each require long explanations, and sourcing which you will agrue against…
Again, what does anyone gain from teaching you any of this?
You’re still not asking questions, you’re just making false statements and complaining people put the effort in to tell you it’s bullshit.
You’re going thru life thinking everyone can’t disprove you, when everyone else is giving the same thought to an unhoused person arguing with a lampost in NYC.
No one has any motivation to help you when they have to fight you before they can help you.
Like, even explaining all that, was just a final hail mary
And you still haven’t pointed out “false claims”, you could do that in maybe 2 minutes if you actually knew what you were talking about, it’s not that difficult. I don’t need help, it just seems you are very limited in your intellectual capability, if you struggle this much with casual discussions.
You can give some examples if you have a better understanding.
Go and read some real papers not the shite your AI slop is summarised from
Lmao, I have read some real papers. I didn’t use AI for this text. What’s the fundamental misunderstanding? If you know so well, you should be able to explain it easily. So far you’ve left 2 useless comments, that are rude and offer no value to this discussion.
You’re argumentative out of the gate, and among complete strangers, this is shitass way to imply you’re fully cognizant of the feelings in your current perspective and ready to learn properly. Kindly fuck off until you’ve done the work on your own. Thanks.
I feel like it’s mostly americans on here, as they tend to be very emotional. My post had absolutely 0 emotional charge, so anyone to be “triggered” by it, must be carrying around a lot of trauma. “Ready to learn”, I regularly speak with actual experts in the field, this is an anonymous internet forum for open discussion, you aren’t doing anything groundbreaking here, most of the posts here are absolutely pointless drivel. You seem very fragily and have a massive ego, to even imply that your perspective by default is somehow valuable, when you can’t even state your opinions related to this post.
