cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/45047387
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I’m kinda disgusted with Microsoft and Github has been declining into an AI-Centric hellhole, to the point my recommendations are almost exclusively AI related… And let’s not forget, the new Copilot Training enabled by default (which honestly, how do you get rid of this thing, VSCode also feels intrusive with AI-First bullshittery)
I’ve been wondering about moving to Gitlab but… “Finally, AI for the entire software lifecycle.” is literally plastered in the landing page. So… that feels like a no-go.
Codeberg is very decent, it’s based on Forgejo so ActivityPub is also a thing (but is cross-instance contributions possible?) but it’s exclusive for Source-Available and Free Projects, which, by all means, totally fine! Half of my “active” projects are for free, and are open source (does that make them FOSS even though I’m basically the only dev?)
And last but not least, Forgejo and Gitlab themselves are self-hostable, but…how expensive (price and storage) would it be to self host a Git Forge??
And maybe I’m being narrow-sighted… For FOSS projects in Github, sadly I’ll have no choice but to contribute there, if that’s the only place where the project resides, same for Gitlab, and Codeberg* (unless cross-instance contrib is a thing)
For now, I’m thinking of moving FOSS/OSS projects to Codeberg, but for personal projects? What are some good options?
I moved all my private projects to Codeberg from GitHub. IDK why but I feel safer that way
Radicle, codeberg, gitlab, sourcehut, tale your pick. Github isn’t the only option. Far from it.
Some alternative self-hosting options (besides full-fledged “forges”):
If you don’t need issues and stuff, you could just use git and back it up (by copying or cloning/updating to some other machine).
You could deploy soft-serve, which is a self-contained git/ssh server with cool cli (beware: it’s not super performant on large repos, so don’t host a clone of the linux kernel on it). Since you’ll use it via ssh, you don’t have to bother with https, certificates, reverse proxies and stuff.
If you are willing to put some effort into it, the (imho) coolest option would be to use radicle, which is a p2p forge (beware: documentation is not great, and - even if the “core” is solid - the cli tools are very much beta still).
I went with the simplest self-hosting I could think of for my private repos:
ssh my-server 'git init --bare git/foo.git' git clone my-server:git/foo.gitYou don’t get a web UI or anything but that’s OK for me, I just want the repo.
Already do; Codeberg is great.
Codeberg or GitLab.
I’m not a programmer, but I have my dotfiles and bash scripts I like to keep in private repos. I just moved my dotfiles over to Codeberg, gonna do my scripts here soon…
But been relatively painless. I can see how bigger and public projects will take some coordination and planning but…it’s probably worth it?
Codeberg has been fun and simple to use, but again, I’m just a hobbyist.
I have been using self hosted Gitea for a while now (few years) with 0 regrets.
Note - you can completely disable all the AI features in Gitlab. In fact, they’re disabled by default unless you explicitly enable them by configuring model integrations. I think its one of the better self hosted options because it had a clear maintenance and path to profitability.
I run my own GitLab on a NUC with no issues.
Disclaimer: I have contributed open source code to GitLab before.
sourcehut, codeberg or self-hosting (cgit, forgejo, gitea, which ever suits your needs)
I’ve exclusively been using gitlab.com and self hosted gitlab ce for years. So that would be my choice.
GitLab. You can’t be emotional about ai., it’s a tool
When github puts ads in commits, you say “fuck no” but gitlab giving you ai devops tools is fine. If you don’t want to use it, don’t.
