I learned about the civil war that Jane Goodall was witness to. I don’t look at chimps the same anymore. Orangutans are where it’s at.
I realized I hate apes and monkeys.
Then I realize I just hate all primates.
The first [of 3 catalysts], were the deaths of five adult males and one adult female - for reasons unknown - in 2014, which could have disrupted social networks and weakened social ties across the subgroups
They assassinated Archmonke Ferdinand!
Was it also an anarchist group?
They took him out
Literally the only reason I remember this person’s name.
If I move, this 👉👉 could die!
I wonder what fascinated alien scientists would write about us
That for all our so-called advances, in the end we’re still a lot more like the other apes and other monkeys (for we are both), than we commonly like to perceive.
And Goodall of course already observed this stuff many decades ago (regarding chimps).
Goodall observed it and commented in it, but this group specifically studied the behavior.
Oh, I thought it was more of a breaking-news thing based on recent, ongoing observations? (if not, then that’s what I get for not reading the damn article)
I remember not so long ago, the fact being presented that only rats and humans killed for unnecessary reasons. For example, outside of the broad, known idea that species could kill as part of a territorial / protection / etc thing. But based on what Goodall observed, some chimps seemed to have no particular reason to kill some others of their species. It was more of a ‘I just don’t like you’ kind of thing, IIRC.
I don’t know where you saw that fact being presented, but surplus killing has long been documented in many species, including those who don’t make caches for winter.
Good point!
So as I mentioned, there’s a pretty clear point upon such…?
@JohnnyEnzyme I guess it depends on what you consider ‘unnecessary’, but I believe this has been observed in MOST species. Dogs and cats do it, for sure, and those are just creatures that many of us can observe a lot.
The fundamental problem with random / unnecessary aggression upon different species, for no real, apparent reason, is that it certainly carries inherent risk. Risk of personal injury and risk of disease introduction is just for starters, and the regular goal of most species is to live and reproduce.
If you understand the very Theory of Evolution, then you’ll understand why most animals don’t typically take such unnecessary risks. Cost-benefit, and all that, with science and observable, known facts coming foremost.
@JohnnyEnzyme Nevertheless, apparently unnecessary killing does seem common enough in plenty of species.
Not to my knowledge, as a zoophile and someone who’s been trying to be curious, for many decades.
Feel free to present your list of science papers and documented, science-encounters you can back up, of course…
Recent, ongoing observations of the past 12 years…
So… not so “recent,” and data that’s already been out there for a while? Implying that this latest thing likely isn’t the first nibble…?
The Roger Waters album ‘Amused to Death’ hypotheses this.
is it just me or is this article… qualitatively sub-par? grammatical errors and this “German Primate Institute in Germany”, i mean… come on. you’re supposed to be the bbc
i always thought this did mean more than just big, black cock
Not sure what’s more wtf about Uganda. This, or Uganda threatening to severe all diplomatic ties with Turkye if they don’t give them $1 billion dollars and a wife to the country’s leader.
Uganda has always been a weird country. I remember the old Idi Amin days. More recently, Uganda became known for making homosexuality a capital offense, after being influenced by an American PsychoPreacher who was bankrolled by Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A.
And yet, when I tell people that I don’t like primates (aside from orangutans), somehow they don’t understand why that might be.
I think it’s because most people don’t like or dislike animals based on how violent they are.
It’s not just how violent they are. I dislike them because they generally have similar qualities to humans, including the violence.
tarsiers and lemurs, slow lorises too.
I don’t like chimps, but bonobos and gorillas are also very chill
Monkey see, monkey do
Again? This was well documented by Jane Goodall in her books from 50 years ago.
Sandel and his colleagues said their findings encourage people to rethink what they know of human conflict and warfare.
Not this annoying bullshit every time. I blame this stupid ass establishment needing to justify funding by circling back everything for our convenience. Can we not appreciate nature for what it is for once?
This is mentioned in other articles. There’s a difference between documenting an observation of something that you saw versus studying and researching that behavior.
Also, not everything is political.
Who’s talking about other articles? Who’s talking about politics?
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