• DoomSayer@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Is this really where we’re at? I’ve seen like five like this on here just today. Where are these wildly extreme views coming from? I need actual sources that are not simply other memes.

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        21 hours ago

        It’s very odd. I’m trying to work out if its pro-Russian activists hijacking a largely unregulated and slightly obscure social networking platform or if it’s just extremist lefties who’ve gone so far to left they’ve gone around the back and reappeared on the far right! Either way the absence of (or presence of shit) moderators is noticeable here…

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          Marxist-Leninists typically critically support the Russian Federation for it’s progressive role in opposing imperialism, presently spearheaded by the United States and secondarily from the broader west, such as the UK, France, Germany, and the various settler-colonies and imperialist coalition groups. Lemmy.ml has always had MLs.

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            6 hours ago

            This all sounds lovely, but I’m struggling to see Russia’s role in opposing imperialism following their repeated incursions into Ukrainian territory and the more recent full-blown military invasion and the subsequent war. I understand imperialism can be summarised by one nation ruling or attempting to rule over another. How do Russia’s actions with Ukraine represent a “progressive” role in opposing it?

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              For that you’d need to recognize the people in donbas as humans.

              As long as you don’t, you won’t understand.

              When iran fights against genocide in palestine, when russia fights against genocide in donbas, the most important parallel between those two is that the burgerlanders’ lackeys are the genociders.

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                I’m genuinely asking for information here. You talk as though my lack of understanding is some kind of position I choose to maintain. There are very few cases in which I would choose to dehumanise anyone. Except for perhaps the most extreme incidents of violent crime.

                I’m someone who wants to learn what you know. Tell me.

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      2 days ago

      It means that their enemies are fighting fucking evil. Don’t you want people to fight fucking evil? Or would you rather the people fighting fucking evil lose to the fucking evil?

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        Either way evil is winning, so I’d rather the evil that is attacking to lose. I would rather the evil that is currently pushing innocent people out of their country to not be doing that anymore.

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          So then you want the US to lose? Or are you limiting all of your thinking to this one specific location and time? Because if you want the attacker to lose, then you want the US to lose. Since 1992, the US has attacked over 14 countries. Russia has attacked 3, all of them border conflicts. The US is the attacker, pushing people out of their countries all over the world.

          And let’s be very clear here. The Russians see this as a proxy war with the US. The US sees this as a proxy war with Russia. Both sides have said so. Ukraine doesn’t deserve to be a US proxy, because US proxies get shredded in the name of advancing the interests of the US.

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              17 hours ago

              Right, so, in the case of the proxy war between the West (helmed by the US) and Russia, it also makes sense that we want the US to lose in Ukraine. Not because in that case the US fired the first shot and crossed the border, but be sure the conflict is fundamentally predicated on US hegemony and the fight against it. Ukraine is only still at war because the West is pumping billions of support into it. And the West only does that to support its own interests. If Ukraine had lost after their 3rd complete military loss, instead of more and more tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, training, mercenaries, and logistics being pumped in to prolong the conflict, there would have been far more peace and far less destruction. Ukraine needs to lose for the US to lose.

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          I’d rather the staunch ally of Israel and the one oppressing minority ethnicities in the Donbass region not be doing that any longer. I also wish that it no longer plays a similar geopolitical role as Israel, as a forward outpost for western imperialism to force neighboring countries into bending the knee.

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      2 days ago

      read a book… the more disconnected from the anglosphere, the better.

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      Found one! Oh and of course its a zionazi .world account lmbo!