If the Chinese could have handled it well, so could have the Russians.
There no bigger PR win than former royal family living new lives as productive members of the communist society.There’s a lot of instances in history where the Chinese handled transitions of power very badly, to be fair.
But yes, making the former emperor a street sweeper was absolutely genius.
Very different emperors though.
Blood sucking imperials.
… the children?
It’s wild that someone can be a tankie, at least for more than say a year or something until the novelty veneer goes away.
It’s the same mental gymnastics for magats. They both think what they want is good. And that people that don’t think like them must suffer to change their minds or die.
And it’s so religiously ingrained in them. That the system cannot fail them. The system can only be failed. No amount of reality proving them wrong or resisting them will convince many of them otherwise. They will just double down on cruelty, oppression, and justification.
Meanwhile Stalin’s daughter fled to the US
This is a dumbass post. If they didn’t kill the family of the Tsar they would be used by counter revolutionaries.
This is a dumbass post. If they didn’t kill the family of the Tsar they would be used by counter revolutionaries.
Yes, clearly the danger of children potentially being used as propaganda justifies murdering them, you got it in one. Luckily, the murder of the Romanov children was never used by anti-Bolshevik propaganda.
Poor ruling family, so unfair that the tsar’s kids that were raised to rule the country with an iron fist were faced with what their family gave to everyone a million times over. So true!
… yes, it is unfair that children were murdered for no fault of their own but being born to the wrong parents. The fuck is wrong with you?
The Tsar deserved the execution. So did the Tsarina.
But murdering their children was a horrific crime.
Poor absolute rulers’’ children. So unfair. I remember that when I read about the 1905 rebellion against the Tsar, when unionists were murdered and united in response, and forced the tsar to make concessions, like creating the duma. Then the tsar considered the duma insolent, and had them murdered and or sent to work camps in the country.
Poor tsar, it’s a shame when they face what they visit a millionfold on others. Poor UH ceo for that matter, so unfair!
Poor absolute rulers’’ children. So unfair. I remember that when I read about the 1905 rebellion against the Tsar, when unionists were murdered and united in response, and forced the tsar to make concessions, like creating the duma. Then the tsar considered the duma insolent, and had them murdered and or sent to work camps in the country.
Poor tsar, it’s a shame when they face what they visit a millionfold on others. Poor UH ceo for that matter, so unfair!
… did you miss “The Tsar deserved the execution. So did the Tsarina.”?
Or do you just enjoy murdering children for being born to the wrong people, like supporters of the Palestinian genocide?
Killing feudalism is more important than the kids of the feudal lords. Feudalism was a curse on our lands from the end of the roman empire, to the 20th century in russia.
Yes, as the revolution in france prior, the revolution in Russia was not wrong to kill the royal family. Just as a royal family will kill the kids that have rival claimants.
You ever read about ottoman successions?
Killing feudalism is more important than the kids of the feudal lords. Feudalism was a curse on our lands from the end of the roman empire, to the 20th century in russia.
Oh, good thing, then, that the Bolsheviks were killing feudalism, right?
Oh, no? What they actually killed was a democratic socialist government which had already successfully deposed the Tsar and his family without causing a civil war?
Huh.
But sure, tell me more about how the murder of the Romanov children was totally justified, because their father was a criminal.
Yes, as the revolution in france prior, the revolution in Russia was not wrong to kill the royal family.
The French Revolution effectively murdering the ten year old child that was the Dauphin was one of its crimes.
Less relevantly to the issue of children, the same with murdering Citoyen Egalite, whose only crime was supporting the Revolution.
Just as a royal family will kill the kids that have rival claimants.
Such is fairly rare precisely because nobles are hesitant about the notion of sanctioning infinite retributive murder games.
You ever read about ottoman successions?
This may come as a shock to you, but I happen to feel those were terrible crimes as well?
Who cares? What difference does it make if counter revolutionaries try to restore the old royal family or make a new one? The problem with monarchy is the system itself, not whoever happens to occupy the position of monarch. Human beings are more than a symbol, no matter how powerful that symbol may be. There is no possible justification for the murder of children.
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It be interesting to see if countries/people that won wars and brutally murdered everyone and caused complete demographic alteration has done better or worse long term.
I expect they have done better long term.
Yeah, clearly it was the right choice since you just have to look at Reza Pahlavi trying to bring back the Persian monarchy today
yep, best not let the cancer fester. I guess that makes me a tankie
Jesus Christ, this sounds like the shite the Israeli far-right says about Palestinian children.
Can’t say if it makes you a tankie or not… but I can say that I wouldn’t be comfortable with you being within 200 feet of a middle school.
Edit: sorry, 100m. I just assumed you were from the USA because of how comfortable you are with the idea of school aged kids getting shot.
I’m pretty sure the bourgeoisie don’t send their kids to any school the prols can get within 100m of.
A public road runs right through Harrow school.
This is why Uday and Qusay Hussein had to die.
A brutal dictator who promises to make his children into brutal dictators has implicated his family in his crimes.
If he had wanted to keep them safe they would have fled or abdicated instead of keeping them as heirs to the throne.
This is why Uday and Qusay Hussein had to die.
They were adults who were participants in Saddam’s regime. The Romanov children were not.
If he had wanted to keep them safe they would have fled or abdicated instead of keeping them as heirs to the throne.
He literally did abdicate and renounced his son’s claims to the throne as well.
They were adults however, and were shooting back.
Wrote up a huge hypothetical of what I would do. Tough stuff. Made me think. Good post!
How is it a good post arguing that it was wrong to execute the kids of the Tsar? Do you not understand how monarchies work?
Made me think == good post.
Idk what you read into my comment?
The atom bombs were fine, though, right?
Maybe you haven’t heard about it, but there was that war thing happening between Japan and US
See, no issues with the nukes. Those were necessary, because of our war. It’s important that those children died in the thousands.
No issues. They were asking for it. And got what they fucking deserved
The citizen children were asking for it?
How so?
War with government is war with the people, war with the people is the war with the government - these things are inherently entangled. There’s no way to separate them
There is, though, it just requires not being a nationalist piece of shit.
