• DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    5 hours ago

    Nobody dresses fancy anymore.

    I was at the Plaza Hotel in New York a while back. One of the most expensive and storied places in the world, and pretty much every guest I saw had brought their clothes at The Gap.

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      2 hours ago

      Fancy is in the eye of the beholder though. In some places a polo shirt is fancy, in other places a western shirt. I think you want people wearing white button up shirts, slacks and nice dresses, but for some people it might be something completely different.

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      5 hours ago

      Why would you dress up for a hotel?

      When traveling “looking fancy” is the last thing I care about.

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        3 hours ago

        The Plaza is more than a place to crash. There is the Palm Court and a number of bougee things going on there. I would argue that more that half of the folks using those hotel amenities are not staying the night. They’re there for special occasions.

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          4 hours ago

          If you expect them to dress up for no reason, sure.

          Go where people actually have a reason to care and you’ll find them…

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            3 hours ago

            It is expected to dress up for high end dining…. Even when traveling. It’s not “no reason”

            That’s the point OP is making. Nobody is dressing up.

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              Last time I went to a nice restaurant, my wife and I were the only ones dressed nicely.

              She wore a nice dress, I wore a shirt & tie; the entire rest of the restaurant was enjoying $75 entrees in designer athlesiure outfits.

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                45 minutes ago

                I think ties have fallen out of fashion. At least in business dress. Button up shirt, nice slacks and a sport coat, all tailored. You have to specify black tie if you want people in fancy dress.

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          4 hours ago

          But why would you dress fancy for a hotel? Most of the time it’s just less comfortable than jeans and a t-shirt. Not to mention the cost of dressing fancy.

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            3 hours ago

            Look at pictures from back in the day.

            People used to wear suits and ties / dresses and jewelry if they were going out to dinner, or getting on an airplane.

            Also, the Plaza is a very expensive hotel. If someone can afford to spend the night here they can afford decent clothes.

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              Sure, but why? What is the point in wearing decent clothes when other clothes are often quite a lot more comfortable. I’m not here to impress people with my clothes, I’m here to get on with my day/holiday/escort, not brighten some hotel lobby with an expensive suit.

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                That just used to be the social norms in the past. At one point, it was expected that you had to wear a hat when going outdoors by default. When we were young we used to tie an onion to our belt, which was the style at the time. Things change over time.

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          4 hours ago

          because nobody goes to hotels just to spend time at the hotel anymore. because nobody can afford to.

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            3 hours ago

            The Plaza isn’t the Hilton Garden Inn. It’s a Fairmont hotel, and people 100% go there just for food, drinks, afternoon tea, the spa, etc.

            Also, you need to book reservations for a lot of that stuff well in advance. Those things are frequently booked up and used by a fuck ton of people who are not hotel guests.

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          I would dress fancy if the world were worthy of it.

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      4 hours ago

      I used to occasionally go to nightclubs in LA with some older guys that insisted on wearing nice, fitted suits. They actually bought me one when I first moved out there. If I was in a nightclub in my 20’s, it was usually cause I was working. So I don’t really have much to compare the experience to. But I’d say they were attention-getting - not necessarily in a good way. One dude tried to start a fight with me. And a girl I texted afterward was surprised to discover that I was, in fact, quite poor. That was a while ago. I have plenty of suits now. I never wear them. I guess nobody dresses fancy anymore.

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      I was at a funeral recently where about 1 in 10 people were wearing cargo shorts or jeans, a graphic tee or a polo shirt, and sneakers.

      Not that I think we should go back to dressing in powdered wigs and hose but I think there is room for clothing choices to mark an occasion

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        Depends on context. For my grandmother, I wore a black dress. For my boyfriend, a bunch of us wore replicas of his favorite tshirt.

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      4 hours ago

      But there’s quite an array of options between “fancy” and “t-shirt tucked into jean shorts.”

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      And thank god for that too. The last thing I need is to worry about all the bullshit of dealing with clothes on top of everything else going on.

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      Im not leaving bed for anything less than a destroyer. If you want me to dress fancy, dust off a battleship.

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      4 hours ago

      And that joke is why your girlfriend is now pregnant

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    3 hours ago

    Lookin’ like Vic Mackey’s stunt dummy.