cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/shit/p/1243452/facts

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  • cAUzapNEAGLb
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    10 days ago

    Taking the meme too seriously, but its a common theme that i do want to counterpoint

    The US government is way more, and way more good, and way beyond the scope of the whitehouse and the clowns in it, even with its tainting

    Theres plenty wrong and bad, but to ignore the good both invalidates all the good works done that is silently ignored, and also spits in the face of the whole yinyang concept

    If we only focus on the bad, and ignore all the good, what sort of feedback system does that create for ourselves? Were finding out i beleive.

    https://www.goodgovinstitute.org/2025/04/the-unsung-heroes-of-public-service-a-mission-to-restore-trust-in-government/

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      Well, organizations like the Partnership for Public Service are not the government. What good are you refering to?

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        10 days ago

        That org highlights the good works of the fed, you can consume their content directly, id just be repeating their reporting

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      The AmeriKKKan government is unironically the most evil institution in all of history. It has committed several genocides, it has spread white supremacy and capitalism and pedophilia all across the globe, and it is leading the charge in destroying our entire ecology and all life on Earth. There’s no reforming an institution like that. AmeriKKKa is an existential threat to all life, and it always will be as long as this vile Empire is allowed to exist. Loyalty to AmeriKKKa is treason against life.

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    Counterpoint: Gov Taxes corporations, and because of that corporations hate Gov. Corporations bad, therefor, some Gov must be good.

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      The government taxes corporations as part of its mission to stabilize capitalism, i.e. to save the corporations from their own worst impulses. Capitalists say they hate the government, and indeed they sometimes individually clash with the State or its figureheads, but capitalists happily accept government money individually, and protection from the proletariat as a class.

      And because the scope of government has increased, i.e. because governments simply do a lot more stuff than they used to, occasionally they do things that are decent or uncontroversial. In a truly free society, these things should be handled by freely associated groups operating in continuous alignment with and consent from their communities, operating without the pernicious influence of capital and other oppressive, hierarchical, authoritarian social structures.

      In conclusion: corporations and governments are on the same team. Both deserve to be relegated to the dustbin of history ancom.

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              In conclusion: corporations and governments are on the same team. Both deserve to be relegated to the dustbin of history ancom.

              “Relegated” means “to consign to an inferior or obscure place, rank, or category”. And while I do not oppose governments regulating corporations or generally making their lives worse (🤡 on 🤡 “violence” from my perspective) while both refuse to die, I want to see them both “relegated to the dustbin of history”, i.e. abolished by the freed proletariat as part of an anarchist revolution.

                • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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                  9 days ago

                  that still sounds an awful lot like governing.

                  I mean shrug-outta-hecks it kinda depends on what definition of “government” you’re using, i.e. how much structure you give the word. I’ve been using “government” here as synonymous with “state”, which is a little imprecise.

                  The part of government to which I am opposed is the authoritarian, hierarchical, nonconsensual, and violent power structure it imposes on the world, i.e. the state. For this reason, both pragmatically and from a position of moral outrage, states are unfit for liberatory purposes.

                  But that does not necessarily mean I oppose other forms of organization, e.g., anarchist collectives, community defense organizations, unions, and technical societies. Of course, these must continue to be freely associated, anti-authoritarian systems which do not reinforce power structures. For the latter two in particular, although it is possible for any organization, these are absolutely not inherently guaranteed characteristics. Hence why we must continuously reevaluate all existing organizations and deconstruct power hierarchies wherever they pop up. One could reasonably argue that anarchist collectives, community defense organizations, unions, and technical societies are “governments” in a weak sense, i.e. a sense that allows governments to be freely associated and without dominance. I obviously don’t oppose these “governments” on principle.

                  But when ordinary people talk about “government”…they really mean the official organs of the state. They’re thinking about men in uniforms with guns bearing down on them to force them to follow the law. (So my prior imprecision was justified.) I oppose this. Revolutionary violence, by contrast, is temporary, targeted, defensive, and bounded, and should in only be introduced as a last resort. (That being said…we are literally hundreds of years past the point where defensive violence against the capitalist class became a necessity. I.e. violence is the last resort, and it’s necessary because these capitalist fucks won’t leave us alone.)

                  Anarchists like me do not seek to establish a “revolutionary” state or even a permanent, hierarchical revolutionary vanguard (i.e., unlike other communists, anarchists are not vanguardists). We want the oppressed classes to free themselves from their power hierarchies, with bounded violence if needed (which it is). This is in stark opposition to the formation of a state.