Today, lovely Windows 11 installed an update. And since then I don’t have internet access because Microslop Wincrap 11 can somehow magically no longer connect to the DNS server - to any DNS server. No other device in my network has the same issue. I’ve been bugfixing for over an hour and haven’t found a solution. setting the DNS manually, resetting the network adapter, flushed all DNS entries (I used the commandline tool on Windows!). nothing works.

I don’t have ANY more patience with W11!

I already tried Linux. I’m using Ubuntu Server for hosting Nextcloud and Fedora just to play around.

Do you prefer Fedora or Ubuntu? I have an old Thinkpad…

(And no, I will not go down the rabbit hole of Arch ;-) At least not for now.)

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    I didn’t want to program shit; I don’t care about command line; I love a good gui and didn’t want to fuck with finicky drivers. Moving to Ubuntu from Windows allowed me to continue to use my mostly browser-based computing existence without having to learn to use a new tool. I may not use Arch but one less Windows victim must be a step in a better direction.

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    Fedora, mainly because ubuntu is putting ai into it’s release in the coming months. Which is fine if you’re visually impaired, but afaict that’s not why they’re putting it in.

    I’ll be switching to Cachy once I’m forced to switch.

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    Ubuntu and Fedora are both great choices.

    I will also recommend OpenSUSE Leap (NOT tumbleweed as it’s a rolling release vs long term support model) and Linux Mint.

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    If those are the only two options, I’d go Fedora.

    But honestly I’m trying really hard not to distro shame anyone - whatever gets you off windows is a win imo. I don’t want to end up like that grounds keeper willy meme about the scottish.

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    I 🎮 on Bazzite

    Wait till you learn about Distrobox and Distroshelf.

    Make a Fedora and Ubuntu box to install .rpm and .deb apps to your Bazzite host, when you need to install things not available as flatpak or homebrew. Since layering apps with rpm-ostree can get messy/ugly.

    Have all three. 🤯

    For various ways to install apps on an atomic image based OS:

    Also checkout Project Bluefin and Aurora.

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    Mint all the way for me. Mint’s based on Ubuntu unless you’re adventurous and choose LMDE which is based on Debian instead (Ubuntu is also based on Debian, so it cuts out the middleman.)

    And the Cinnamon desktop, which is the default, is very Windows-like and native to Mint. Perfect for refugees. I was one when my Win 7 SSD died and I thought that that was a perfect time to switch.

    I can’t speak to Fedora (I still haven’t forgiven Red Hat for what they did to CentOS), but Mint has honest-to-goodness old-school forums where you can ask for help if you get stuck.

    Edit: typo

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      I’ve been pointing newbies to LMDE for ages now. Standard Mint is okay, but with the underlying Ubuntu changes, I’ve found it can teach those new to Linux some unconventional habits and it seems like LMDE just sticks a bit closer to what I would consider to be the “base level” introduction to Linux without being too manual.

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    Obviously, the best solution is to just move to Linux, yes.

    But…

    Today, lovely Windows 11 installed an update. And since then I don’t have internet access because Microslop Wincrap 11 can somehow magically no longer connect to the DNS server - to any DNS server. No other device in my network has the same issue. I’ve been bugfixing for over an hour and haven’t found a solution. setting the DNS manually, resetting the network adapter, flushed all DNS entries (I used the commandline tool on Windows!). nothing works.

    I have the exact same issue occasionally on my Windows gaming PC. The only way to resolve it is to restart the computer and restart the internet router at the same time. Restarting either one alone isn’t enough.

    (Yes, it’s mind-boggling that the router needs to be restarted, given that all my other devices (phones, Linux PC) can still access the internet through that same router just fine. But that’s what works.)

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    Over the decades, I’ve tried Ubuntu, mint, arch, fedora in that order. I would rate my experiences arch > fedora > mint > Ubuntu.

    Endeavor os would be my first recommendation, Cachyos then fedora. If you want that classic windows 7 experience and very solid support, I recommend mint. If you need the latest drivers endeavor.

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    I am a Debian man myself for servers. I don’t want any Canonical bullshit to break mid LTS.

    While I am still running win 10 I am undecided which desktop to switch to. CachyOS and Fedora are the front runners but man do I hate Gnome.

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      CachyOS and Fedora are the front runners but man do I hate Gnome.

      Plenty of good KDE distros out there. And it’s often possible to install KDE on a Gnome-default system.

      Don’t know about CatchyOS or Fedora, but on Ubuntu, the command was sudo apt install KDE-full … then just restart and it boots into KDE no problem.

      (Yes, I know Kubuntu exists. But Kubuntu didn’t support ZFS on root during install, while mainline Ubuntu did. So I suffered through using Gnome just long enough to open a terminal and type in that command, followed by reboot.)

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      I’m not a big fan of Gnome on Fedora either. Everything is just so big and needs so much space. CachyOS is a tad to new for my taste for using it as a daily driver.

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        CatchyOS being bleeding edge has actually alleviated a lot of my complaints with Ubuntu/Fedora. Sometimes I really want that brand new shiny thing. And so far I haven’t had too many issues with Catchy breaking. Granted I only run it on my testing laptop not my main machine.

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        why not fedora KDE? it is a full edition now and a really smooth experience

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      I use cachyOS with kde plasma on wayland right now and would recommend.

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    and sorry for the ragebait. I’m just a little bit frustrated and had to write it down

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      I have been on Fedora since 33 or 34, and quite like it. I will say that I have had upgrade woes twice though. I set up Nextcloud on Ubuntu using snaps about 10 years ago, and it’s still kicking, although it goes down every time it decides it’s going to update itself. Win 11 at work: Randomly, half our fleet stopped loading Teams chats last week, and six machines lost their UEFI boot entries today. Big fan.

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    It is some years since I ran Fedora. Ubuntu is still predominant at work. But I run Debian on my ThinkPad and all my laptops for many years. I think this ThinkPad is my third laptop that I have installed Debian on: they don’t last forever. Before that, I was running Mint. They all run well, so there’s not much to choose between them, from my perspective. Neither Fedora nor Ubuntu would be a bad choice.

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    I moved to Fedora a few years ago. Spent a week or two orienting myself, like going to a new town and not knowing how to get around. So glad I did. I choose when and what to update.

    Not perfect though, it lost keyboard connection yesterday. Reboot fixed it.

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      what made you decide to use Fedora and not Ubuntu. Or Linux Mint?

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    Give mint a try just to start. It’s ubu-based, super polished and great for a first distro. That being said, don’t think Linux doesn’t have those update/dependency hell horror stories. If you go into it with realistic expectations, you’ll have a great time with it.

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      don’t think Linux doesn’t have those update/dependency hell horror stories

      Depends on distro, really.

      Stick with a stable LTS branch of a well-established distro, and you’re very unlikely to ever see issues after updating something.

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    So far I’ve only tried Pop!_OS and Mint, and I much much much prefer Pop!. I even got my wife to start using it.

    Edit: Pop!_OS is also Ubuntu based.

    I didn’t really like Mint at all.