cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/48809351

YT desc: First impressions of the Finnish phone company Jolla’s new phone running SailfishOS, a Linux distribution with the ability to run Android applications on the device.

Looks like the viewer hasnt used the os before which makes for a bit more interesting pov

    • Jiral
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      4 days ago

      You can use a ship forward service, unlike for example Framework, Jolla does not appear to bother about that.

      If you are in the US, there has been a first report about usability with an American carrier on forum.sailfishos.org

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        I’m not sure how to do this with Canada.

        Also, I want to avoid paying taxes twice. Once in the origin country of purchase, and another to my destination country (Canada).

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          I don’t know the details but I woukd recommend using a service in the EU, that removes any double tariffs. I would think that you only pay VAT in that country. The ship forward service isn’t selling you the product, it is merely shipping you the product you already own. At least that’s how I understood it.

        • _ed@sopuli.xyzOP
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          Yeah definitely a hurdle. The exchange rate here also doesn’t help. Part of my decision to go ahead was to treat it a bit like a kickstarter to get it over the line. Hopefully will open up in future.

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      I have one on order using a local freight redirection service - which ships from my non-supported country via the UK. (Last time I did that was for the Original One Plus One - always a bit nerve wracking)

      • iturnedintoanewt
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        Any trustworthy freights forwarding service that you know of? That’s something I’ve never tried before.

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    Pretty happy with mine so far and I am also new to Sailfish.

    I enjoy having finally a terminal on my phone but also the very unique UI. More than I expected, actually.

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    This video convinced me to order one. I’m a longer linux user and feel pretty comfortable with using it. So if someone like him that isn’t as familiar with linux is happy with it, then i should be happy.

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    How is the open-sourcing of their previously closed main UI components going? IMHO before that isn’t completed this is a complete non-starter.

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      Completely agree.

      Plus the fact that they can’t run regular Linux apps liks others, for example Mobian, PostnarketOS, Maemo Leste, even UBPorts to some degree.

      Also, without mainline kernel support, it will not get updates for very long. And then when an application requires a newer kernel, you cannot run it. Of course security will be the main issue by then.

      I finally want to see them selling phones with mainline kernel support. They’re mostly doing great work, but I don’t want to buy another phone that’ll be e-waste not too far in the future, simply because it can no longer be updated. We’ve got a planet to save, after all.

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        3 days ago

        What I do appreciate: XMPP built into the system, well integrated.

        But still no OMEMO support. No other app available for that. I cannot simply install Dino on SailfishOS.

        I do have a SailfishOS phone, it mostly lives in my drawer, as there are too many things that keep me from using it, unfortunately.

        EDIT: Not really a fan of Flatpak, but it’d certainly help with software availability and I do hope they will add it.

    • Jiral
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      Then look somewhere else.

      There has been meaningful progress with many of the core apps. The camera app has been fully open sourced and the weather app too and if I am not mistaken also Notes and Gallery. Most of the system has been open source anyway. It is primarily the UI that isn’t and there has been no sign of that changing in the near future.