• WhatAmLemmy
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    The entire American healthcare system is predicated on denying healthcare. That’s why it costs twice as much to deliver a crime against humanity.

    Is Trump and the current crop of nazis the worst? Yes! Are 90% of all D’s and R’s over the last 30 years to blame for the current crime against humanity? Also, yes!

    It turns out that a political class of criminally corrupt corporate whores, only involved for personal financial gain, devoid of all morals and ethics, are incapable of benefiting “the people”. Who woulda thought?

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      I’ve noticed that all the dead malls around where I live are being repurposed into various medical campuses. Specialists, urgent care centers, labs. One-stop shopping for your HSA!

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      And make no mistake, both sides share blame. Corporate Democrats agree with Republicans on this, that’s why Obamacare was kneecapped to start with.

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      Twice? Americans have been voting for the predatory healthcare system since the 20th century…

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        Of course! God forbid their tax money goes to pay someone else’s bill who is less deserving. That’s Socialism!

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            No, they understand that other people’s money helps fund their bills. That’s different - they work hard, and deserve it! Other people are just lazy moochers, though.

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        Hillary did not run universal healthcare, but Bernie did and should have ran against Trump. But noo we let Hilary cheat and get away with it.

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            Get fucked with that bullshit. She wasn’t running on nothing but being first woman president. She wouldn’t have done none of that. If she was really wanting to fix healthcare she would of vowed to have Sanders in her administration. Instead she rat fuck him then picked the most conservative VP she could find.

            She reason we have to deal with Trump. He husband convinced him to run as a Republican. Because they felt they could rig the general as well. Popular vote or not Hillary is just to goddamn hated. Trump never meant to win. But after he did he got the taste of the power and well here we are. I will not allow people to defend that bitch.

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              I provided a link, and I was there in 2016, I’m not defending her against Bernie but I’m not gonna sit here and listen to this bullshit either.

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                I was there to and know she a fucking conservative who help usher in Trump. So you can go fuck yourself with your I’m with her bumper sticker.

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                  You said she had no platform other than being the first woman. I already proved that wrong. Engage in the actual conversation or leave me alone. I already said I wasn’t gonna defend her against Bernie so you’re clearly just looking for an argument that I’m not going to give you.

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      They’ve voted for it every single time they’ve voted for a Republican or most Democrats since at least the 1950s or 60s.

      Also don’t forget that the second highest (at the time) number of Americans in history voted for it another time in 2020. Fortunately the highest ever number voted for the other guy (who also didn’t want to fix the problem, but at least didn’t want this!).

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        You can’t just list every presidential candidate and then blame the voters. There’s more nuance there often were simply picking the lesser of two evils.

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          I’m not actually blaming voters, though I can see how I came off that way (I do, however blame the ones who voted for Trump anytime after 2016 - people make mistakes). They haven’t had much choice, where health care is concerned. The probably falls under the “both sides” argument in that neither party is willing to phase out, or significantly reduce, private health insurance in this country. For sure, there are a handful of Dems, and the odd unicorn Rep, who understand that single-payer is likely to be more cost effective at delivering consistent care. It also doesn’t help that the Republicans have gone off the deep end in the past couple decades. Makes it unlikely that anything will change in my lifetime. One of the main reasons I don’t plan on staying after retirement.

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    Welp… looks like we found the “death panels” they always swore the democrats would put in place if they won. This is literally what they were afraid would happen if the opposing party took power. A panel of non-elected officials would decide whether groups of people would live or die.

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    I’m honestly surprised that the Republicans haven’t started suggesting suicide kits as an alternative to Medicaid, because ultimately, people have to make the choice between financial death due to healthcare bills, or biological death.

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    IMO we stop calling it healthcare and come up with a new word. It doesn’t resemble health care in any way anymore.