In an attempt to boost activity I’ve tried to answer a few questions in this, and similar communities. Looking for an old comment, I found out that a bunch of posts I’d answered are now *Permanently Deleted*, and what’s that about? If they’re LLM slop there’s enough of it I’d rather just block the community so as to not waste any time.
Because they asked a stupid question
… can’t really argue with that
It’s annoying, I see it a lot too. I think it’s mostly people second-guessing or regretting their own comments or posts. I’ve had great conversations with people, only to go back and find the whole thread was deleted. That has happened way more than I would have expected.
I don’t think it has anything to do with LLMs or slop (and I hate the slop), just people afraid of admitting they’re wrong or leaving an unpopular opinion out in the world after it’s been sufficiently argued away.
That just means OP deleted their post. This can happen for many reasons, but the most common is they get embarrassed at the replies, decide they don’t want it on their post history, or they think the downvotes mean something, like on Reddit
It can also mean that a mod removed the post. There was a dust-up in one of the self hosting communities a while back, when people were complaining about users deleting their “I’m having a weird issue with this setup, any tips” types of posts after getting answers. People were even talking about rules to ban repeat offenders.
Turns out, a mod was deleting the posts and citing a “must be about self hosting” rule to say that they should be posted in a tech support community instead. But since the mod wasn’t active 24/7, the posts were often deleted after they had already been answered.
The reason I remember it is because the whole thing ended with that mod throwing a tantrum, promoting some random users to mods with an “if it’s so easy to moderate, you fuckin do it then” message, and deleting their account.
The reason I remember it is because the whole thing ended with that mod throwing a tantrum, promoting some random users to mods with an “if it’s so easy to moderate, you fuckin do it then” message, and deleting their account.
Can’t say I’m surprised. The quality of moderation here is, how do I say this… a fictional concept? It’s so easy to tell when someone is all “me want be important, me become internet dictator” and couldn’t give less of a shit about doing it vaguely properly.
Or get sick of the avalanche of replies in their inbox, since you can’t turn off notifications for responses to a post or comment unlike on reddit. The only way to make it stop is to delete whatever it was.
Also I’m pretty sure by default if a user deletes their Lemmy account most clients also automatically delete all of their posts and comments. If a user gets fed up with us or decides the Fediverse is not for them, when they take their ball and go home that’s really what happens.
I have to admit… I kinda get that sometimes. Maybe I’ll spin up a new user just to test if that’s it
I found turning off notifications completely improved my lemmy experience. I’ll check them and clear them periodically in my own time.
It doesn’t help either that the default web UI doesn’t actually clear off your notification bell even if you’re marked all replies as read until you force refresh the page. That’s kind of annoying.
Other interfaces like Alexandrite and I presume Photon do it a little better.
the default web UI
Isn’t that the Tesseract from the recent trama?
Luckily, it most certainly is not. Tesseract is a (probably now very defunct) third party client.
Yeah, that too. I block the notification element with my adblocker
But deleting your own post or comments is not permanent, you still have the ‘undelete’ option, right?
Edit: As I just checked below, deleting your comment results in ‘deleted by creator’, not ‘permanently’.
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Are you using an app or the web interface?
The reply below just shows “DELETED” on Connect, and I know from other posts that if a mod deletes them, it links to the modlog entry for the deletion (in Connect, I mean)
I am finding it interesting that what is displayed in the app is different than the web interface. Not sure why the text wouldn’t be exactly the same.
Web
It doesn’t seem to mean that OP did it, because it doesn’t look like that when I delete my own stuff?
Idk then. Maybe a mod deleted it? Maybe OP was banned? Maybe the poster’s instance went defunct?
Some communities simply purge old posts.
Then they fucking stupid and we will never grow Lemmy as a legit site.
Some instances are hosted and paid for by people that don’t have lots of money. Purging old posts to save costs is a valid reason to do so. Whether or not that’s the case, I have no idea.
It depends on a particular community.
Communities like nostupidquestions are not expected to have posts with important news or problems one might google a year later.
Tech-focused communities, on the contrary, are expected to keep posts forever, so that important information will be accessible. However, some people delete their posts after their problem is solved. This is highely discouraged.
And Lemmy ain’t just one site. Yeah.
Hm. Kind of a weird thing to be doing then. I know storage prices are up and all, but that half kilobyte of text?
One post is a couple of kilobytes, but there are hundreds of posts daily, you know. Also comments, also attachments. And no community exists in vacuum, they are parts of much larger instance servers. So this is among the least disruptive ways to save storage space.
Narcissism maybe? It’s infuriating and really dissuades me from contributing in-depth answers here, which is such a shame. If I’m responding to someone I’m not just responding to help the person, I want to help anyone who might be searching for an answer in the future. It seems like a real design flaw that the OP can unilaterally decide to (effectively) remove an entire topic on their whim when others have contributed more to it than they did.
Like how many old forms still help question I have. If we won’t Lemmy to be legit then we must hold onto and archive old post.
Fear of political persecution maybe
Sometimes mods delete the post too. Some mods are extremely anal about the rules and will end up deleting a ton of posts.
If we (naively, I’m sure) assume they apply the rules as they’re actually written, those make a lot of sense. If they’re removing on rule 1 and 5 (no fake questions, especially for some agenda) then that’s basically the exact same suspicion I have myself for most of this. But then the majority traffic is spam or even more malicious. hm.
It’s not, “No (such thing as) stupid questions”; it’s “no stupid questions!”
/s
That would explain it, because some of them really are pushing the suspension of disbelief. Which is why it’s especially annoying when I go out of my way to assume whoever is not actually completely taking the piss or some other kind of idiot, and treat the question reasonably seriously. Despite what it looks like…
Deleting it afterwards makes me very suspicious indeed because, bluntly, many of the “questions” already felt… stupid… in the wrong goddamn ways. Not necessarily dumber shit, but differently dumb shit than people used to ask on reddit before LLMs, hint hint.
Seriously, have you read some of this shit?
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They can’t handle the awsome
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When I’ve seen it, it tends to be because OP disagrees with the responses being drummed up by their post.
Last time I saw it, it was for a post about a trans couple being attacked, and somehow the comments became about one guy claiming he’d have saved the day as a gun owner (totally ignoring that he’s not the only gun owner in America).
People backed him up, downvoting anyone saying it could have turned into a bloody shoot out, so OP deleted the comments.
Apparently people couldn’t manage to support trans rights without being pro-guns, and if you disagreed the crowd turned on you. America, where trans people and guns have to go hand in bloody glove.
Controversial.
I came across it on a post about why universities are expensive. At first it had all the standard Reddit answers but I used my experience in the university system to provide more accurate answers. My responses started generating responses and then the whole thing was shutdown. I thought they were farming for LLM content and didn’t like the answers. I am definitely less likely to participate now.
Well, you see, instead of having a single website run by a single fascist entity… on the fascistverse you have all kinds of fascists all across the rainbow of fascism on a myriad of distinct but unified yet elaborately disjointed architectures.
