In leftist spaces, right-leaning ideas are challenged. In right-leaning spaces, leftists are banned and leftist ideas are censored. Why are conservatives opposed to the free marketplace of ideas?
Serious question.
Conservatives know in their hearts that they are a fringe minority when it comes to views on how to treat others.
Colbert was right reality has a liberal bias and conservatives need a safe space to pretend that the numbers are equal and that their arguments have validity.
Often times you notice conservative threads that are locked contain misinformation and outright lies. For instance they call the Russia investigation a hoax.
If reality pierces that bubble they are shown for the fools they are so they have to pretend that liberals are brigading in bad faith and not simply showing conservative views are simply invalid factually.
Thanks for the reply. This sounds a lot like how AM / Talk radio works on the right as well. Leftist talk shows actually bring on interesting guests, but right wing shows always cut the mic when the guest says something thought-provoking.
I would think conservatives would benefit from having their ideas challenged. It was the main reason why I started paying more attention to leftist ideas: they are actually defensible.
You see the same censoring on right YouTube as well. “so and so owns WOKE Trans non-binary sheep” but it’s really just a clip that’s cut off after their bad argument and before a logical rebuke destroys it.
That’s why there’s a comment section. These are hardly the same thing. Do you understand why they are different?
What a load of shite. Lefties are the fascists trying to silence anyone that doesn’t agree with the hive mind. Reddit is just one of many examples.
If you think Reddit is controlled by lefties, especially now, you’re out of touch, or so far right even the “basket of deplorables” is lefty to you.
What are some of the things lefties do that makes them facists?
What is your personal definition of facism?
Thanks for your reply. You are demonstrating what typically happens in right leaning circles. Why put out misinformation? Why not engage me in discussion? I only want to generate discussion.
You do know fascism is inherently right wing ideology, right? This is exactly what I’m talking about.
People on the right use words that they don’t know the meaning of and try to redefine them.There has never been anything “left” about fascism.
You’re simply incorrect.
You can repeat yourself all day long and the other lemmings in the room will upvote and pat your back for it. Still doesn’t make you correct or clever. Just shows your ignorance.
The problem with your reply is, yes, repeating the same scrutiny of the data does indeed return the same definitive results. Progressive views and policies result in a greater quality of life.
Even for those who wish to kill ourselves back to prior ages.
Google it and find out.
In this thread: man misattributes “Fascism” to the opposite of the meaning.
And thought reddit was full of leftists. A very confused individual.
This is a confirmation bias thing, not a political thing. If you are in charge of a discussion forum you will always push it to support your confirmation bias. This is why the first amendment is so important. If the government is in charge of public discourse, the people in charge (either side) will work extra hard to ensure their opposing ideas are simply dismissed as without merit.
This just isn’t what I’ve seen in lots of leftist spaces, personally. I think it’s more of an issue when it comes to indefensible topics. For example, in a leftist community, a right-leaning person may make a statement, but then many more people will typically pile on and present arguments as to why the statement is incorrect. Sure, some of them will resort to ad hominem attacks, but for the most part, leftists attack the ideas, not the person.
But what you’ve described is 100% my experience when it comes to the conservative community. I was permabanned on reddit because a conservative mod didn’t like what I had to say. And what I had to say was pretty mild. It was argumentative and possibly toxic but boiled down to calling them “slow”, which sums up the entire ideology - slow to adapt, slow to progress, regressive.
for the most part, leftists attack the ideas, not the person.
It was argumentative and possibly toxic but boiled down to calling them “slow”
Lol
Removed by mod
What’s funny? Got anything to share? I don’t lie.
You should try contributing to the conversation instead of showing your lack of understanding.
This is my biggest issue with conservatism: there’s no pragmatics, only ad hominem attacks and overconfidence. Wouldn’t you rather be correct?
What’s funny?
Your stunning lack of self awareness. You posted a paragraph shitting on the other side for ad hominem attacks then immediately followed it with a paragraph bitching that they banned you for an ad hominem attack. That’s funny.
showing your lack of understanding
I understand what you said, that’s why I laughed at you
only ad hominem attacks
Right, like the one that got you banned from reddit
Wouldn’t you rather be correct?
My opinion is that both conservatives and liberals are insufferable twats without an original thought in their collective heads who vehemently defend their off-the-shelf prepackaged beliefs with snark and insults and zero substance while denigrating the other side for doing the exact same thing. I am correct.
“Slow” is a speed at which some people are. “Conservatism” by its very name is a bit of a call to “slow down”. Sorry if the truth hurts. I’m also slow in a lot of respects. Might be a little ad hominem, but it’s no where near the level of ad hominem attacks you’re making, I’ll give you that.
The fact that you keep implying I’m a conservative, like you can’t comprehend that there’s anyone out there who doesn’t subscribe to either ideology and despite the fact that I lump them in with you every chance I get, is also hilarious.
Once again I was trying to explain to you that there are more than 2 ideologies. You’re the one who kept forcing this binary. I haven’t called you conservative.
You’re one of the more prolific posters on MOG. I’m sure you realize that anything not supporting communism is suppressed and banned in places like Hexbear and Lemmygrad. I haven’t been to the basedcount instance that much, but they were nowhere near that. Perhaps it’s just that I’m not in conservative online spaces a lot though.
I most often encounter conservatives in person. They share a lot of concerns with the other side when it comes to healthcare, security, and infrastructure. My favorite issue to talk about is urbanism and how rail infrastructure has been neglected.
Left wing spaces don’t have any problem banning people for thoughtcrime.
Proof?
Go on any progressive site and say something that doesn’t comply with the orthodoxy.
I do. And I am still unbanned. Only time I have ever gotten banned has been by conservatives for saying the most milktoast of things. Luke warm criticism. Then again conservatives melt away at the slightest bit of heat.
I ask again… do you have proof?
Hell, conservatives freak out when I mention vagina, penis, sperm.
r/conservative is notorious for cancelling people who disagree with them.
Go to a progressive subreddit and tell them that the Covid vaccine is a dangerous scam and see what happens.
Well spreading lies and misinformation about healthcare another thing entirely. You can’t just have a separate opinion on that. You aren’t a virologist.
You still need to be able to have a debate about whether or not it’s effective or dangerous.
No, you don’t. You don’t have the credentials.
You’re free to spout lies, but when lies aren’t allowed, you get your comment removed. That’s moderation, baby!
