Christian nationalists hate like they are trying to make the world end before the boomers die off.
They’re literally praying the world ends while they’re still around, since something like 10 generations of their ilk have been excitingly promising and threatening each other with that. Oh my gosh! This is it for sure this time. Jesus is coming. The unfortunate thing is working and living with people who literally think what they do today doesn’t matter because the world is ending really soon. Obviously, that encourages very short term thinking, and these people are too indoctrinated to notice “the rapture” didn’t happen the last 155 times someone predicted it. Even worse, the more dire the news, the more excited they are because it means Jesus can’t be far now.
This is my entire family, and the way I was raised. It’s fucking disgusting.
The rapture in 2011 didn’t happen because a few days before it began, we lost Randy Savage. The Macho Man stopped fighting and ascended to heaven. But he didn’t stop fighting out of weakness. Obviously not. The Macho Madness transcended this plane of existence to stop the rapture. His last words should be carved into Mt Everest. No Rapture On My Watch Jesus! I’m Coming For You! He hit Jesus with a flying elbow and saved us all!
Proof: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/22/article-1389475-0C33B94300000578-599_634x680.jpg
oooo, nice. I can just hear the guttural emphasis at the end, pointing his finger right at the camera “I’m coming for yooooouuuuuuuuu”
Obviously, that encourages very short term thinking, and these people are too indoctrinated to notice “the rapture” didn’t happen the last 155 times someone predicted it.
One of my most politically frightening moments was when I (from Europe) was watching a “documentary” about the US. They showed a senator who firmly believed the rapture would come very soon.
If a person believes that, how are they in a position to make thoughtful long-term decisions? Which often not only affect their own country, but countries around the world, for decades to come?
It was a lasting moment of scare and despair. God bless you (smirk), drive out these demons.
Yes, a fair number of US politicians have an evangelical belief that conflict in Israel will bring about the second coming of Jesus and thus the rapture, Armageddon etc. It’s why they support Israel, other than the anti-Muslim/Arab racist sentiments, despite some being anti-Semitic. It’s scary, sad and disturbing that people with power not only believe these bizarre archaic fairy tales, but also are actively courting the end of the world.
Most ansird thing about it for me is that their shotty behaviour before the rapture means they’ll all go to hell.
But i guess reading and understanding the bible arent evangelical qualities, when they just get some TV scammer “preach” to them.
Reading and understanding the bible is what creates atheists, so no they aren’t evangelical qualities.
The understanding part is the problem.
They don’t read it either, it’s read to them over loudspeakers and on 200 square foot TV mega screens.
I’ve always thought this, not about Christian nationalists, but about boomers in general. Such a selfish generation where they can’t imagine a world without themselves, so they want to make sure it ends for everyone else too.
Armageddon FOMO
They are succeeding
Radicalized fanatics who do not fear death and hate anyone who doesn’t believe what they believe and those who do not look like them.
Domestic terrorists.
And the “reasonable” religious people legitimize religion as a valid idea in societies.
Other than my religion, there are no ‘reasonable’ religions. My ghost is better than your ghost.
According to this logic any ideology, world view, political leaning, or even opinion on beef stroganov is invalid because there is radical people advocating for it…
You belief in free market capitalism? Well fuck you, because you are just enabling Elon Musk. You believe in fair wages and social security? Are you trying to legitimize Stalin?! Oh you think black people shouldn’t be murder at random by cops? You are just advocating dor the Black Panthers now!
This is not an argument. You just invalidate anyone having a position on anything by this.
Other ideas are based in reality. Religion isn’t, and it’s useless in itself.
It seems to be quite prevalent for something that you consider useless in itself. But still you claim knowledge and ability to assess what is real and what isnt and judge people based on the extremists in that particular belief system. You are just mirroring the religious zealots in your dismissal and insult of anything outside your belief system.
So it also concludes that your criticism of religion is not because of the totalitarian institutions, terrible crime and inhumanity it created, but just that you want to replace the belief system used to justify these with your own.
It seems to be quite prevalent for something that you consider useless in itself.
Popularity fallacy? Really?
But still you claim knowledge and ability to assess what is real and what isnt
I reserve the right to think something isn’t real until it’s proven to scientific and legal standards.
and judge people based on the extremists in that particular belief system.
No such thing as “extremists”. There are the believers (who follow the doctrines to the letter) and the cherrypickers, who follow whatever parts of the doctrine their own sense of morality and common decency decide they accept. The “good believers” tend to be the latter.
you want to replace the belief system used to justify these with your own
Stop projecting.
I just want people to be more rational and stop believing supernatural nonsense.
“I just want people to be more rational”
“I reserve the right to think something isn’t real until it’s proven to scientific and legal standards.”
How can you promote the latter and claim the former? Do you think something cannot be real unless is has empirical facts attesting to it? Do you reject logical facts? Like mathematics?
Do you think that legal standards have an inherently rigorous basis?
It’s really embarrassing to claim that you promote rationality when you almost certainly can’t provide a general description of philosophy of science.
I just want people to be more rational and stop believing supernatural nonsense.
But do you realize that every economic theory is based on that? So if you support the capitalist economy you believe in supernatural nonsense just as much like you’d do with socialism or communism.
And for scientific proves. Please explain to me how Higgs Bosons are proven? You just believe that the people at CERN did a good job because you believe in the surrounding institutions.
How do you consider people like Heisenberg? He said that the first sip from the cup of science makes you an atheist, but at the button god awaits. Is quantum physics supernatural nonsense now? After all unless you are a researcher in that particular field it is all just you believing people who believed someone who considered it evidence of some god…
And that is where all this “Atheism is superior hurr durr” circlejerk breaks down. You end up in the same fallacies as the religious zealots because you deny nuance and take fundamental positions.
You just believe that the people at CERN did a good job because you believe in the surrounding institutions.
OK, you’re either a troll or a fundamentalist, either way it’s useless trying to discuss anything else with you.
Despite what they tell you they most certainly fear death. One dead insurrectionist put down Jan 6. There’s a reason they need their emotional support weapons.
The real issue is that their fear is entirely illigitimate, up until they threaten the rest of us, and because they’re scared rats in their own self made corner that they pushed themselves into out of cowardice and fear, it will be a self fulfilling prophecy that they lash out against their imagined enemies.
These are the most dangerous people in the country. These are often the ones who shoot kids through doors and cars. These are who storm government buildings and plan kidnappings of politicians. We’re pretty fucked.
Indeed. Really any group consisting of people whose zealous beliefs are formed irrationally is a group that has the potential for doing great harm—to others, to themselves, to society, to the environment, etc.
Malicious ignorance is the real pandemic.
A interesting strawman.
An uninteresting display of stupidity
Err… that isn’t a strawman. A strawman is where the argument consists of misrepresenting the opposition’s belief or argument in a way that is much easier to attack than the actual argument.
A good explanation with some good examples can be found here: https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/straw-person.html
interesting strawman.
I feel like this is one of those words that’s been used so much on the internet that it’s lost all meaning.
That’s what they do. They take words that mean something serious and misuse them until most people don’t understand them anymore.
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I have an ex who’s oji-cree. She went from embracing her roots to going full christian. Never understood it.
At least with her traditional stuff there was a connection to reality.African religions are just as nutty as Christianity, fyi
Most religions are nutty. Very few own it and say “it’s just for the lesson”. The only one I can think of is Hinduism. But confisionism or toaism exist as well, but different formats.
But I digress. The point is that people that are religious aren’t inherently bad. A big percent of the world believes in religion. It’s when they start using as a reason to oppress people do we run into issues.
Only in an atheist community will promoting non-Christian superstitions be permissible.
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And they can’t choose atheism? Why is one superstition romanticised solely because another replaced it?
Also my comment was more about the positive feedback you’re getting, simply because it is anti-christianity and neutral (or even positive) for all the other harmful superstitions.
The christian talaban will be coming.
What do you mean, “Will be coming?” They’ve been murdering abortion providers for decades.
I mean an armed insurrection
It’s out of our control because we’re powerless to change it. We’re powerless to change it because we pretty much only elect Christians.
