Sometimes I report a bug & the dev starts off asking for more details. But then there’s a kind of scope of effort creep where you start to realize you’re being tricked into finding where in the code the problem is so you can fix the bug.

It’s a bit of social engineering of sorts. When I post a bug, I do that from the back seat of the car. And it’s like the dev sits in the backseat as well while coercing me into the front seat. So sometimes there’s a bit of weasel words and nuances with sneaky wording that needs to be deployed in order to stay in the backseat while trying to get the dev into the front seat where they belong!

  • @[email protected]English
    31•1 year ago

    Yeah I don’t know man, as a dev this sounds like you are finding things that cannot be reproduced and the dev can only get more information from your machine. It’s like if you were calling up a mechanic on the phone. He can’t take the wheel. Would you be ok with giving them access to your PC remotely to try and find the bug?

    Nah man, we’re not trying to weasle you into finding the bug yourself. We would very much prefer to interact with end users as little as possible.

  • @fubo
    29•1 year ago

    If you’re not paying that engineer, you have no good reason to form opinions about “where they belong” in terms of work they do that might benefit you.

    • @[email protected]OP
      -28•1 year ago

      Someone tasking someone else without paying them is indeed being not where they belong. In the case of the OP, that’s the dev tasking the bug reporter.

      • @[email protected]
        17•1 year ago

        Are you a paying customer? If so, I understand completely.

        Is this free software? The dev is a bigger volunteer than you.

        • @[email protected]OP
          -11•1 year ago

          Are you a paying customer?

          Testers and bug reporters are not paying customers. They are volunteer CONTRIBUTORS.

          If so, I understand completely.

          Obviously not.

          The dev is a bigger volunteer than you.

          Nonsense. Contributors are equals. Exceptionally, devs who demand that testers also fix the software are notably smaller (managers, effectively).

          • @[email protected]
            6•1 year ago

            So you did not pay, but you are BOLDFACING your volunteer contribution over the much larger contributions of the developers.

            • @[email protected]OP
              -8•1 year ago

              So you did not pay,

              And? Of course testers do not pay money. Why would they? Devs do not pay for the tester’s work either. Both developers and testers are volunteers who do not pay the other for their work. On free software projects testers and devs pay with their own labor.

              much larger contributions of the developers.

              It is not “much larger” for a dev to task the tester to implement the fix. The dev is no more than a manager in this case.

                • @[email protected]OP
                  -2•1 year ago

                  Did I say incomplete? You’ll have to quote where you get that from.

                  Compare like with like. You can have incomplete code, and you can have incomplete bug reports. Neither are relevant here.

  • @flubba86
    15•1 year ago

    That last sentence makes me think this is a tonge-in-cheek post, sarcastic and looking for a reaction. Subtle trolling. Ignore it and move on.