• @warbond
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    299 months ago

    48 prevented fatal accidents sounds great! Now how many accidents would we prevent if we criminalized alcohol?

    • Doug HollandOP
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      139 months ago

      And how many more if we banned cars?

      • MelodiousFunk
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        79 months ago

        If we just criminalized dying, we wouldn’t have to worry about fatalities at all.

      • @doingthestuff
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        39 months ago

        It wouldn’t be very good for those empty-ish parts of Ohio. Maybe if we also gave everyone a horse.

    • be_excellent_to_each_other
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      29 months ago

      I doubt strongly their criteria for linking those accidents to pot goes beyond “this person smoked pot recently enough for it to show up in urine”.

    • Nakedmole
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      Criminalizing any drug just means gifting billions to organized crime and destroying the lives of millions of consumers by criminalizing them. Legalization and a focus on protection of minors, education about drugs, addiction prevention and rehab programs is what improves peoples lives. If you think criminalizing alcohol might be a good idea you should read about “The Prohibition” and how it made the american mafia the stinking rich empire it is.

      What should be strictly criminalized is driving under any influence and that is the case in most countries.

      Imo also driving cars in urban spaces should be criminalized but that is a different topic.

      • @warbond
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        29 months ago

        Generally speaking I agree with you. I was trying to highlight the simplified moral calculus on display that equates the immeasurable harm that strict prohibition has created to the potential harm of losing dozens of lives. Due to the inherent complications of these questions, neither is unequivocally good or bad, but they’re presented as a dichotomy that simply does not exist in reality.

        There are plenty of other ways to go about it, just like we compromised on alcohol a century ago. As a society we agreed that it comes down to personal responsibility, so how is weed really any different? Pointing to the potential harm that legalization could cause while ignoring precedent and common sense is disingenuous at best and purposely misleading at worst.

  • @[email protected]
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    239 months ago

    Of course they’re against losing the easiest excuse they have to harass poor and/or ethnic people.

  • @SinningStromgald
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    139 months ago

    And makes no mention how many fewer people would be in prison if recreational marijuana happened. How many fewer cases would go through the courts. Nope. Nothing.

    • Nakedmole
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      59 months ago

      Now that is very un-American of you to say! Who do think would slave all day in the for profit prisons then? /s

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    89 months ago

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  • @boatsnhos931
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    59 months ago

    So…how’s that working out for you guys? Do you enjoy being despised or does it come naturally?

    • Doug HollandOP
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      49 months ago

      It’s not Ohio, it’s police unions fighting to keep arresting people for nothingcrimes. Same response from cop unions everywhere and every time anyone’s proposed ending prohibition.

      • @Etterra
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        39 months ago

        This is pretty much it. Other than civil forfeiture - AKA legalized literal armed highway robbery of cash - taxes tickets and fines make up a startling amount of the police budget in a lot of places, maybe most of them. And we wonder why they stopped using cruisers and they all have SUVs now. In my suburb, every goddamned one of them - and there’s an awful lot for some reason - is driving around in a SUV. The only cop car I’ve seen around is the County Sheriff.

  • Nakedmole
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    49 months ago

    I usually separate between good and bad cops. Headlines like this don’t make it easy though.

      • Nakedmole
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        19 months ago

        I don´t like cops because they make me uncomfortable and I would agree that probably the majority of cops are assholes but I refuse to judge all individuals in a group based on generalization.

        • @[email protected]
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          29 months ago

          They are a street gang except nobody pressured them into it. They constantly do crimes that would get anyone else incarcerated yet they almost never face any repercussions at all. They steal from normal citizens through asset forfeiture without ever bringing charges against their victims. They cover up the crimes of their peers. Murders, rapes, theft, brutal beatings all done and covered up by the very ones entrusted with upholding the law and protecting the citizenry. Their entire organization is built from the slave chasers, and their racist, power-drunk actions and policies have only become increasingly dangerous for us, the people. The generalization is earned.

          • Nakedmole
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            29 months ago

            I respect your opinion and I can identify with it. Bad experiences with members of a certain groups naturally lead to generalizations and I guess just like me you had bad experiences with the cops. However - while most generalizations are not arbitrary, that still does not make them true for every individual in the generalized group.