karcatgirl-vantas:

the default way for things to taste is good. we know this because “tasty” means something tastes good. conversely, from the words “smelly” and “noisy” we can conclude that the default way for things to smell and sound is bad. interestingly there are no corresponding adjectives for the senses of sight and touch. the inescapable conclusion is that the most ordinary object possible is invisible and intangible, produces a hideous cacophony, smells terrible, but tastes delicious. and yet this description matches no object or phenomenon known to science or human experience. so what the fuck

skluug:

this is what ancient greek philosophy is like

  • fatalicus
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    631 year ago

    sightly is a thing… Something that looks good.

    • @schmidtster
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      221 year ago

      And touchy is a thing, it touches back, so it’s something that looks good, can touch you back, smells bad, is loud, but tastes yummy…

      • @KidsTryThisAtHome
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        Or it gets really defensive when you ask if personal questions

      • mozingo
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        91 year ago

        Sounds just like my ex

        • Dojan
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          How would you know what your ex tasted like?

          • @paddirn
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            21 year ago

            That’s why she’s the ex… he didn’t like the way she tasted… down there.

          • @Daft_ish
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            11 year ago

            To be honest, everyone knows what their ex tastes like.

      • @paddirn
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        What is, a dog?

    • @some_guy
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      We also say someone is a “looker” when they’re hot. And that things are “touchy.” though the latter is often used figuratively, it can be and definitely is used literally.

      Also cows smell terrible, make a ton of awful noise, but taste delicious.

      This post is just shitty, misinformed pontification. It’s definitely not anything close to philosophy.

      • AMuscelid
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        61 year ago

        I mean, the description of shitty misinformed pontification describes a pretty good chunk of Greek and roman philosophy. Have you read a lot of Aristotle?

        • @Cryophilia
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          11 year ago

          the description of shitty misinformed pontification describes a pretty good chunk of Greek and roman philosophy

          FTFY

        • @some_guy
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    • RBG
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      But, something can look so aweful you cannot avert your eyes of it. Like a stereotypical car accident.

  • @z00s
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    This is very much “I am 14 and this is deep” territory.

    Adjectives describe. By using them, we are emphasising a quality of a given thing. That does not make it the “default state” (a problematic concept) of that object, even if it is a desirable quality.

    The “default state” of food is that it is edible, ie. that it can be eaten, as food is defined as that which is edible.

    there are no corresponding adjectives for the senses of sight and touch

    Visible. Tactile.

    Noisy

    Even by OPs logic, “noise” is not one of the senses. Audible is the correct word here.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_universals

    • @Donkter
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      141 year ago

      If you think the original poster was even remotely serious you need to take a break and expose yourself to… Idk, Conversation? More comedy? Media literacy lessons?

      If this was your attempt at comedy, drop the first sentence and be more belligerent in your indignation.

      • @z00s
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        Sure bud.

        #iam14anduhhiwasactuallyjoking

          • @z00s
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            You probably shouldn’t use words that you don’t understand

            But go ahead, give us a close reading and explain where the humour lies.

    • @[email protected]
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      The punchline is the comment about how the OP is like Green philosophy.

      You’re picking apart the setup, not the punchline, and therefore being “that guy” who ruins the joke.

      Stop it.

      • @Taniwha420
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        91 year ago

        … All the comments. They’re all missing the point that some Greek philosophy and classical rhetoric is indeed like this. This is where I’m pretty arm’s length with some schools of thought; it sometimes all seems constructed on some dubious first principles, or leaps of logic.

        • @Daft_ish
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          The podcast “unexplainable” did an episode like this. It’s called, “Does Garlic Break Magnets?” It’s kinda fun, honestly.

        • Piecemakers
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          It’s right there in the first sentence. Even toddlers learn pretty damn fast that the “default” of all things is the furthest thing from “tasty”.

      • @glimse
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        Why can the replier in the screenshot poke fun at the nonsensical nature of the first post but not us in the comments?

        How does that ruin the joke for you?

        • @[email protected]
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          BECAUSE THE FIRST POST IS THE SETUP AND THE SECOND POST IS THE PUNCHLINE. THEY ARE BOTH PART OF THE JOKE. WE ARE NOT.

          GOSH.

          • @Eheran
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            What is your problem?

          • @glimse
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            21 year ago

            I’m sorry things get ruined for you so easily

          • @z00s
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            There is no joke bud. It’s just someone being dumb, and your defensive attitude suggests you didn’t understand that when you posted.

              • @z00s
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                11 year ago

                Oh no I’m not as smart as I thought I was, quick better do some S A R C A S M !!!"l

      • @z00s
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        It’s not a joke, it is indeed true that a lot of early Greek philosopy featured that style of logic, which you would know if you’d ever paid attention in school or actually read a book.

        Eg. Diogenes refuting Plato’s definition of a man.

          • @z00s
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            Wow !!!

            You really suck ar covering up your pre-pubescent insecurities!

    • Vincent Adultman
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      51 year ago

      In your philosophical knowledge, is there a need for a iam14andthisisdeep community? I pretty much think that the sum of a determined number of children make up of a real adult.

    • wia
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      41 year ago

      Exactly, and on top of that this only works in English and only in dialects where these words are used that way.

    • @glimse
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      Yeah I’m not sure how they concluded “there’s a word for this therefore it describes a default object”

      Man that car was speedy! Therefore the default speed is fast.

      • @Cryophilia
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        That really is more or less how Greek philosophy worked.

        • @glimse
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          The joke reply is great but the initial post not so much

            • @z00s
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              What’s supposed to be funny about it? Plain stupidity isn’t humour.

              • Blue
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                41 year ago

                I think of you and immediately get bored

                • @z00s
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                  I don’t think about you at all.

                  You still obviously have no idea what this post is about.

    • @Emerald
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      And “sightly” isn’t as common as “unsightly”, so the default sight verb is bad.

      • @Daft_ish
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        Smells bad, something you do not want to hear, do not want to touch and do not want to see. But tastes good. Don’t anyone say it’s shit or ill slap you.

    • @[email protected]
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      21 year ago

      thats referencing either the phrase “touch a nerve” or the person in question touches things/people too much, it doesn’t factor into this discussion where it’s describing properties of an object rather than personality traits

  • SokathHisEyesOpen
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    When you say someone is a real looker, it means they’re attractive, so I’d say the default state for sight is appealing.

    • @[email protected]
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      Good point. Also, there’s touchy feely so the most ordinary thing seems to be a loud, stinking and attractive creep with strawberry lipstick or something. 🤔

    • Flying Squid
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      You also say they’re “hot,” which suggests that your eyes have the capability to gauge temperature.

      • @Pirasp
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        Which they do, by the means of black body radiation.

    • @[email protected]
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      I’d say it’s those attributes that most compel us to notice that sense than the default for that sense. If something is smelly or noisy, you are often unable to avoid or ignore it, it takes over your senses. If something is tasty you are compelled to take more of it to placate your senses. A “looker” is something you can’t take your eyes off of. Whereas “touchy” is somebody that reactive, they are forced to notice and react to you.

      Therefore the most sensually compelling object is something that smells strongly, is loud, tastes good, looks good, and reacts when you touch it.

      Conversely, I believe “ordinary” is something you are not compelled to notice. So it would be the exact opposite. Smells nice, is quiet, tastes bad, looks neutral, and does not react to touch.

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        Therefore the most sensually compelling object is something that smells strongly, is loud, tastes good, looks good, and reacts when you touch it.

        So a person?

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    My thesis brings all the boys to the forum.

    And they’re like, “This makes us a quorum.”

    Damn right, this makes us a quorum.

    I could teach them but I might just bore 'em.

  • jedi-hamster
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    Basing life philosophy on English grammar…lol

  • Th4tGuyII
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    But there are words for those two thing, even if they’re not used commonly.

    Sightly is something that is pleasant to the eye. Sure, it’s inverse “unsightly” is more commonly used today, but it is still a word.

    While not mainly used to refer to the sense anymore, Touchy can refer to a body part that is acutely sensitive or irritable.

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      A loud, irritable, bad-smelling thing, that is nonetheless beautiful and delicious.

      A firework.

  • @Shapillon
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    You’re definitely describing a fart.

      • @Shapillon
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        I’m no good at remembering itemized lists ^^’

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    • kamiheku
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      In Finnish we have separate words for good and bad smells

      Haju / haista = a (bad) smell / to smell (bad)
      Tuoksu / tuoksua = a (good) smell / to smell (good)

    • @deus
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      I was going to say this. It makes more sense in Portuguese because I can hardly imagine something smelly also being tasty.

  • @[email protected]
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    The person is not wrong about Greek Philosophy. Have been reading some of Plato’s works and he does have a bit of an absolutist way of presenting things that sometimes fails to address the nuance. The things that he is right about though transcend time and are eerily relevant to our current circumstances, so his thoughts on him an nature tend towards accurate. On this example, Plato would probably script Socrates explaining to Glaucon, and indeed does, that vision is tied to brightness and darkness and that somewhere in the middle is where you’d want to be because brightness is brought by the sun, which is hot, but you can be tool dark and cold in a cave. He’s then be ADHD and explain that the cave is a metaphor for our knowledge and since light lets us read, we lack much knowledge when being in the dark. Glaucon would then quip that people can still talk in a dark cave and that their voice might even be echoed and Socrates would probably say that without the warmth from light, the soul won’t listen to the loudest voice. It goes something like that.

  • @[email protected]
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    Screaming invisible cheese?

    A gas being forced through a pipe that’s smelly yet sweet-tasting?

    • @Deuces
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      Evaporated durian juice

    • Ready! Player 31OPM
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      Shipments go by land and cargo goes on ships…