• @grabyourmotherskeys
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    9 months ago

    Maybe not the best news source but I don’t have all day: https://theintercept.com/2015/08/03/17-years-reporter-exposed-echelon-finds-vindication-snowden-archive/

    When I was a budding IT guy, the conspiracy theory that the five eyes nations were spying on each other and giving the intelligence to each other to get around rules prohibiting domestic spying was largely regarded as a paranoid conspiracy theory.

    Network engineers that worked in internet backbone connectivity said there was no other really viable explanation for some of the patterns that were seeing and I believed these people after looking over some things they posted.

    Well, eventually they were vindicted and the truth came out.

    Ever since then, I’ve been a little slower to dismiss conspiracy theories.

    Do I think JFK jr is coming back to lead The Storm, reinstate Trump, and finally put an end up the adrenochrome illuminati? No. But I’m a little more open minded than I used to be.

    • @captainlezbian
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      39 months ago

      I think it’s important to filter between plausible but unlikely and implausible. Are a group of spy agencies sharing information to bypass prohibition on spying on their citizens? Possibly yes.

      Could a famous person who died 30 years ago come back to reinstate the extremely controversial former president of the United States because he clearly had to have won? No. Faking your death is really hard when everything goes perfectly. He doesn’t have the authority to do Jack shit. He wasn’t even a president. MLK isn’t going to come back to life and reinstate Barack Obama either.

      What about the moon landing being fake? No. The Soviets had every reason to dispute the apollo 11 landing and all of the technology to verify or refute it, they verified it. Additionally mirrors were left and amateur astronomers can verify for themselves. Also astronomers aren’t spies, nasa is bad at keeping secrets.

        • @captainlezbian
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          19 months ago

          Yeah it’s how you stay open minded imo. And as a rule when a conspiracy starts blaming the Jews I discount it. It’s one thing to say Netanyahu or Kissinger did a conspiracy, but Moe down the street had nothing to do with it. People and organizations conspire, races religions etc don’t

  • @captainlezbian
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    39 months ago

    I believe that the United States government operated a scheme by which they secretly armed the Nicaraguan contras in exchange for cocaine, which the cia sold in the United States and used that money to fund Iran. All against the law and without congressional approval.

    I believe that the American federal bureau of investigation kept tabs on, infiltrated, assassinated, and otherwise actively disrupted left wing causes for at least half of the latter half of the 20th century, and may continue to do so.

    I believe the cia dosed a lot of people with lsd without their consent in attempts to control minds. All without informing any higher ups or democratically elected officials.

    I believe the cia has actively worked to undermine and overthrow democratically elected left leaning governments around the world whenever that comes into conflict with the interests of American wealth holders.

    Modern ones, I have some suspicions based on leaks from somewhat trusted sources, but it’s not like historical ones where there’s such clear evidence and often confessions, which is part of why American ones are so prevalent here, we do like documenting what our government does.

  • Tedrow
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    29 months ago

    Agents of the US government purposefully destroyed Billy Holiday.

    Also, during prohibition, the US government knowingly poisoned alcohol with the intent of harming people that drank illegally manufactured booze.

    • jimmydoreisaleftyOP
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      19 months ago

      I thought the poisoned alcohol during prohition was proven as true.

      Maybe not…

      • Tedrow
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        29 months ago

        It isn’t ambiguous that it happened. The question is what was the motivation. I’m saying they knew they were killing people and did it anyway.

  • @[email protected]
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    110 months ago

    The 9/11 was an inside job stuff, but only the part where part of the US government knew that something was going to happen and let it happen. That gave them the opportunity to set up stuff like the Patriot Act and gave them a (wonky) reason to invade the middle east.