Previously on Lemmy: Motorola

Maybe we should just make this a series now.

Never settle for Oneplus.

I’ve always felt that Oneplus is a brand that I should like on principle of having clean software with barebones but powerful hardware, but in reality, every single Oneplus phone I’ve seen always had some sort of big BUTs attached to them, so buying Oneplus always feels like settling.

Take the Oneplus One for example, that sandstone textured cover was THE most creative material I felt a phone could have had, and I’m honestly shocked nobody has ever done it again. But along with that of course, comes with the cringy “smash your phone” marketing campaign, the half-hearted attempt to distance themselves from their parent company Oppo, the whole software mess with CyanogenMod/OxygenOS, etc.

Had a Oneplus 3T for a while, same deal: Great phone when it works as intended, but they raised their price without making the phone better, and the inexplicable random restarts/battery drain is so irritating, never had another phone that does that.

Recently they’ve dropped all pretense of not being Oppo and abandoned their core audience, choosing to have the “courage” to drop the headphone jack. Mediocre Chinese phones with flagship specs are a dime a dozen, I just don’t see a reason to buy them anymore.

  • verysoft
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    2311 months ago

    They used to be great value, good specs for affordable prices, then slowly turned into premium shit when they got more popular. Same happening with Nothing now.

    • HidingCat
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      411 months ago

      Exactly that, they were great until 4 or 5, I think. Then they became premium. It’s kinda a version of enshittifcation for hardware makers: Pander to enthusiast community at the start, get some marketshare and mindshare, then go premium and raise prices, abandoning the original group of fans.

    • LaggyKar
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      111 months ago

      But they’re way too buggy to be considered premium

  • @ArghZombies
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    2311 months ago

    Used to be high spec and a low price. Now they’re average spec and an above-average price.

    Nowadays phones are all pretty similar in price and spec, so I’d rather get a slightly more expensive phone from a company with proven, accessible warranty.

    • Margot RobbieOPM
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      711 months ago

      I think Oneplus is a proven company, it’s just that they’ve always proved themselves to be mediocre.

    • Demonmariner
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      411 months ago

      I’m using a OnePlus 6 right now. I’ve never had a problem, and I’ll probably stick with the brand.

      • @ArghZombies
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        211 months ago

        All tech is great when it works all the time. The problem is what happens when it stops working. Can you contact them? Where do you send it for repair? How long does that take? All that sort of thing.

        • Demonmariner
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          111 months ago

          I had a OnePlus 3 for awhile and gave it to my daughter, who broke the screen. I contacted OnePlus and arranged a repair, and got the battery replaced at the same time. I don’t remember the price but it seemed fair at the time and the turnaround was about 2 weeks.

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    • @YoFrodo
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      111 months ago

      What do you use now, or what would you recommend instead?

      • @ArghZombies
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        011 months ago

        I have a Samsung at the moment and have had Samsung’s for 6 or 7 years. I’ve only had minor issues with a few of them, and I’ve been able to visit a Samsung retailer / service centre to actually get them looked at in person.

        So, proven reliability for my experience and ability to get it looked at in person is something that means I’m happy to pay more for the phone than I would be for other brands.

  • Ljdawson (Sync dev)
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    1511 months ago

    Pre ColorOS they were my goto. These days Pixel all the way.

  • @applejacks
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    1411 months ago

    I used to love them.

    I “won” the opportunity to get the OnePlus One.

    Was such a great device, I love flashing ROMs on it, even got the bamboo back.

    Pretty much every device since the first has been just a slow transition into being your average phone OEM.

    They are nothing special anymore.

    And now that other OEMs have less crappy skins (and OnePlus’ skin got worse) there’s really no reason to buy them anymore.

    Kinda sad.

    • Margot RobbieOPM
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      411 months ago

      Kinda like reddit, I suppose.

  • Venutian Spring
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    1011 months ago

    I had a few Oneplus phones, but the 7 pro was my last of theirs. the 5 and 7 pro were phenomenal phones and the 7 pro is still one of my favorites phones ever. That being said, I didn’t like the direction they were going and the full merge with Oppo so that oneplus phones are basically stripped down version of Oppo phones, just soured me to them completely. Then you have their non-existent customer service reputation and they’ve been put on my list to avoid.

    I was a huge fan of Oneplus, but will not buy any of their products again

    • @jasparagus
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      311 months ago

      Agreed on the OP 7 Pro being pretty great, up until the last major android update that kind of killed it. I ended up having to switch it over to the Pixel Experience ROM for stability reasons.

      • Venutian Spring
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        111 months ago

        I never experienced that since I was on custom ROMs from the beginning. That was a good ROM though

  • @Dark_Blade
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    911 months ago

    You summed up my feelings on OnePlus perfectly. There was a time I liked their phones (purely because they offered great hardware and a barebones Android experience) but then their devices progressively got worse in every single way. Now, not a single one of their overpriced phones is worth buying.

  • @[email protected]
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    811 months ago

    Most of the OnePlus series, including older models, is fully supported by LineageOS, and unlocking the bootloader is straightforward. That were the most important reasons for me to go OnePlus. For me and my family there was nothing else comparably easily supported by Lineage with a good price/performance ratio. We currently use 6T and 8T models, that we bought used. The only downside for me is the lack of a notification light.

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    Have a Oneplus 7 Pro, first Oneplus phone I’ve owned and it will be the last. Absolutely love the phone itself, but Oneplus as a company, the software they package, the warranty issues, and the direction they’ve gone as a value pick have all fallen off a cliff since it was produced, and have turned me off to ever upgrading to one of their newer models. That’s fine for me though, I have replacement parts on-hand, and a third-party actually maintained rom, so I’m OP7P until the wheels fall off this thing.

    Edit: Can’t comment with experience on other OP phones, but I’ve heard very good things about the 6s, it was my second pick when I was looking for a phone at the time.

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      11 months ago

      Yes OP 7Pro here too.

      7Pro with the popup cam and no notch is the perfect layout. My previous OP 5T had easier singlehand use, a handy notification LED and was without the silly curved screen edges

      7Pro is still a sweet phone today, but is the last one designed with the original company ethos.

      I’ll roll with this one as long as possible and then look at battery replacement and LineageOS to really make it shine.

      Getting GCam 7.3.018 by Urnyx05 Vers 2.1 made the camera about 10x better.

      Zero chance of going to any OP 8 - OP 11.

    • @ultranaut
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      111 months ago

      I’m still running my 7pro and it’s been solid for years until a few days ago. For some reason it randomly stops detecting the sim and loses mobile data. It eventually works again after a few reboots but I don’t think I can live with that so I’m probably going to have to finally replace it. It’s really disappointing how OnePlus turned out, and that the stupid front camera notch has become ubiquitous.

  • @TwinTurbo
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    711 months ago

    They have good hardware, but their software is—or, at least, feels—unreliable. With so many digital interactions virtually expecting to be done from a mobile device these days, the last thing I want is for the phone to glitch and give up on me when I need it. Yes, customization is nice, but these days I value reliability much more than that, even more than performance in some respects. Unfortunately, that mostly leaves Samsung and Apple as options for “reliable” software…

    • @arin
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      Their software was great until 2023, an update really fucked up my one plus 7 pro experience. Luckily i already switched to Samsung. I don’t know about the newer one plus devices and how their software works on them though.

      I really loved the one plus software until 2023, honestly the best, i even considered getting another one plus devices instead of Samsung but Samsung had better hardware

  • @CosmicCat
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    11 months ago

    So short answer, I really love them but I’m keeping a cautious eye on their choices.

    Full disclosure, this is coming from my OP11, so I’m a little bit biased, but this is absolutely the best phone I’ve ever had. And mind you, my previous phone was the OP7Pro which is an incredible device that STILL works like new after 3 years. So personally, they’ve been good to me.

    However, I am keeping a close eye on their OS and software decisions. I was a little hesitant about this phone at first. The Android 11 OxygenOS was perfect on my OP7Pro. I upgraded to 12 (their merger with ColorOS if I’m not mistaken) and it was just a mess. For the first time since buying it, my OP7Pro had random bugs and stuttering. I immediately reverted to Android 11 and it was back to perfect. Unfortunately, the OP7Pro will no longer receive updates, so if I wanted to try the newest OxygenOS, I needed to upgrade.

    OP11 starts with OxygenOS 13 and is slated to receive 5 years of updates, which is awesome for longevity. Some of the decisions they made after the terrible OxygenOS 12 (many changes to the OS, releasing the OP11 as the only flagship without a Pro later in the year, etc.) gave me hope that they recognized their mistakes and were willing to fix them. I decided to give them another shot and got the OP11 in April.

    The software is still missing a few (minor) things I liked from OxygenOS 11, but Android 13 makes up for it with some interesting features. And this might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually like what they’re doing with the OxygenOS 13 skin. It’s hard to describe since there are a lot of small things I probably noticed unconsciously, but I haven’t had any bugs and it’s been a dream with this device. I do feel like they’re listening to their customers again, and trying to get back on our good sides.

    In the past I’ve been burnt by Samsung and LG, but OnePlus hasn’t ever let me down (except that atrocious OxygenOS 12, but again, I skipped it). So long as they keep making the effort to listen to their customers and keep pushing the changes/additions we want to see, I’ll keep buying their devices and running their OS. Of course if I see a repeat of 12 with OxygenOS 14, I honestly might bail. 12 was so bad I’m never doing that again.

    I realize this is kind of rambly, so please let me know if you want me to clarify anything.

    • Margot RobbieOPM
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      211 months ago

      Are there any specific features of OxygenOS in particular that you like? Haven’t used one in a while.

      • @CosmicCat
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        411 months ago

        So I’m not sure if I’m the best person to be giving their opinions as I’ve used only OP phones for the last 3 years, so the things I like might be standard android these days. Also, rereading my comment I sound like an OP fangirl, so feel free to disregard my comments.

        I love their aesthetic. I like the “bubbly” feel to the UI, the font, color choices, etc. I think they’re very snazzy. I also love the customization features, specifically the launcher editing UI (it’s stupid intuitive), the AOD options, they have their own creepy animoji thing that I kind of love, the transition animations are smooth, and it’s cohesion in general is excellent.

        It all feels like it belongs together. I have a hard time determining where “standard android” and OxygenOS begin/end. It just feels nice to use and I love leaving my phone faceup just to look at it. It’s hard to identify exactly what I love because I haven’t been keeping a list or anything, but just this morning I was moving some apps around and between folders and it just did exactly what I wanted in a way my old phones definitely wouldn’t. Small, but really exciting in the moment.

        Of course, these are all very little things that might not be enough for other folks, but the little things are usually what delight me most. I’m also not a bank, so this phone is absolutely the most expensive thing I own and I try to appreciate it when I can.

        I will say, there are things that OP will need to change. For me, things like icon customization and notification dismissal direction need updated. But these are extremely low on my list, so I don’t mind it as it is.

        I want to add that the hardware on this device alone is worth it to me. It’s a beast and the battery is fabulous.

        Anyway, I’ll stop gushing haha. I didn’t realize how much I like it until now. I know these devices aren’t for everyone so this is my own opinion. I’m also writing this on my commute so I feel like it isn’t coming across as clearly as I’d like. I hope that helped a bit though.

        • Margot RobbieOPM
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          311 months ago

          This is a place for everyone to give their two cents. There really are no wrong answers here.

  • @FlashZordon
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    611 months ago

    They had their time in the sun. Their first few phones were pretty good in terms of price to performance. 7 Pro were peak One Plus.

    Every phone after that just got more and more bland with hardly any feature to make them stand out from the rest of the competition.

    • Margot RobbieOPM
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      211 months ago

      Maybe we should do one on Nokia later too.

  • @RagingPixels
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    511 months ago

    I have owned the OnePlus 2 and 6 and was very happy with them. Value/performance was pretty good and I never had any problems. Their recent direction made me go back to Samsung though and getting an a52

  • SolidGrue
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    511 months ago

    My 5T has been my daily driver for years. I’ve replaced the battery & USB port on it once so far, and that’s it. I’ve also run LineageOS (rooted + Magisk) since day 1, which I agree is its own set of challenges. Seriously no complaints and I’m not really shopping for anything more right now.

    If the Fairphone 5 specs are solid I may take the plunge, but for my needs nothing else out there has been compelling enough to make a change.

    • Iceblade
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      211 months ago

      I’ve always been thinking about switching to a 3rd party OS, but been kindof wary due to bank apps and such. Do they work with LineageOS as well?

      • SolidGrue
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        111 months ago

        I use my bank apps and GPay without too many issues. There’s a checklist to follow for Lineage + Magisk + some modules & settings, but it works.

        Some hotel apps won’t work, but I don’t stay at those places often enough to matter.

        • Iceblade
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          111 months ago

          Alright, thanks 👍

  • danielfgom
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    I don’t like them. I think they are trying to be Apple and I hate that because it means higher prices, fewer features. No headphone jack, no SD card slot, no dual SIM, high prices.

    That’s not meant to be the Android way. Android is all about choice and options. That’s what I love about Sony, and why I have a Sony Xperia 10iii - they give you more: award winning design, sleek form factor, fantastic cameras, headphone jack, SD card slot, dual SIM, waterproofing, easily removable SIM tray, notification LED, battery care, long battery life, great OLED screen, NFC, HiRes audio on wired and wireless, MP3 upscale to improve music quality on MP3 tracks, great video recording (up to 4K on mine), support app built in, fast stock launcher will little bloat. I’m even a fan of the dedication Google Assistant button and use it all the time.

    And the price was great because I got it on sale for just €350.

    That’s how Android should be: options, choice, value for money

    Edit: I forgot to mention that Sony allows unlocking the bootloader if you want to install other ROM’s like Sailfish, Lineage etc

    • Margot RobbieOPM
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      511 months ago

      We’ll do Sony some other time. Promise.

      • @[email protected]
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        111 months ago

        Ditto on that lol. I have the oneplus 11. Bought it right when it came out.

        The camera is pretty good. I actually like the in screen fingerprint sensor. The rest of the phone is pretty trash. The UI changes they did feel, wrong. I don’t even know how to describe it. My unihertz looks better.

        The biggest sin of oneplus tho, is nearly unfunctional bluetooth. It’s constantly dropping out on me. Android auto doesn’t work half the time. I used it for about 3 months and went back to my sony

        • Iceblade
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          211 months ago

          I’m still on my 5T. A lovely device and I’ll use it for as long as I can (replaced the battery once already). My only two complaints would be the lack of stabilization on the camera and a slightly dim display in daylight.

          Apart from that - it’s everything I want in a phone, but I won’t buy another oneplus. No audio jack and a real stiff price increase. If I were to switch today I’d probably aim for asus zenphone lineup if I can afford it.

          • @ManosTheHandsOfFate
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            211 months ago

            Yeah I had the 5T and gave up on it after the battery started to get horrible. but for a couple of years before that, I quite enjoyed it.

            • Iceblade
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              211 months ago

              That was actually one of the things I looked up before buying it. Opening up the device is doable, if a bit difficult. Phone felt like new after the replacement, and is still going strong after almost 6 years now.

              Only trouble I’ve had is finding new phone cases xD

    • @Aceticon
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      211 months ago

      Is it just me that reads “award winning design” and instantly mentally classifies a post as “likely marketing”?!

      WTF is the value for a customer if their phone’s design has received awards?

      I mean, does any genuine human out there choose the looks of their phone based on the awards it got rather than, you know, personally likeing said looks???!

      • Zaros
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        311 months ago

        I stopped reading out of habit as soon as I got to the “award winning design” and “form factor”. Such marketing buzzwords are usually a good sign telling me that part of the text has no valuable information and should be skipped.

        I hadn’t even noticed this habit and I have no idea when it started. I wonder what other subconscious reading optimizations I’ve made, and how they might impact the type of information I read without me realizing it…