When I was on Reddit I felt like my opinion didn’t matter. But here it just feels more open and free.
Every comment I would make on Reddit seemed to get challenged by someone looking to start a long-winded argument as they were, in fact, the main character of the universe.
I like it here because so far, people are nice. It’s like the first day of high school and everyone just wants to be friends and meet people.
No karma competition here. It has a bigger effect on behaviour than you’d think.
It’s like a little trophy or a symbol of validity to some people. You’d see big edits addressing downvoted as if people got personally hit in the head with them.
I don’t blame people though because viscerally, these things are little tokens of “approval” by others at large.
Reddit gamified participation, and the result was an addiction to trying to say things that people would click the updoot for. Here, the comment / post score is used purely to determine the relevance and value of the individual comments and posts. I think the result is clear: people feel less compelled to post the meme, the shitpost, the expected something and are more likely to express a thought they have, or think is valuable to the conversation.
The result is less stuff, but the stuff is more nuanced, interesting, and engaging (even if the engagement metrics are lower). It’s also a less stressful environment to interact with, and is just kinda all around better since no one is trying to profit
God, I love this place. Instead of having to navigate through a mob of idiots to express an opinion or have a discussion, it’s simply informed, quality discussion from top to bottom. What a good feeling, almost gives me hope for humanity
Cherish it now haha. If this place ever gets a lot more popular, you’ll start seeing all sorts of dumb takes and behaviours again 🤪
That’s why I’m feeling a lot better about the steady rate of growth here. At first I just wanted to get everyone over from reddit ASAP, now I’m like okay, I could get used to the small town vibes with a bunch of cool people.
It’s going to be an amazing journey as this place continues to grow. Just remember to laugh at the inevitable drama and cry at the bad memes. Never the other way around 🙃
Small town vibes is exactly how I’d put it haha. I tend to recognize a few posters here and there. Just like at my town’s post office 😂
Votes have a bandwagon effect, both up and down votes. Sometimes it just felt like arguing with an army of mute downvoting zombies; no reply, just downvotes. I completely understand some communities on Lemmy disabling downvotes, even if that means there is no mora a “controversial” vote.
My only fear is that as Lemmy gets bigger, the same botting, brigading and mindless bandwagoning, will also come here.
I feel like your characterization of Reddit users as long-winded and contrarian is inaccurate and frankly offensive. Let me write you several paragraphs about why you’re wrong, sprinkled with thinly veiled personal insults and outright harsh commentary about you as a person.
Sorry, just trying to make it feel like our old home :)
Lmao this was good. You forgot to comb through my post history to see if you can make your comment even more hard-hitting by referencing a personal problem I have that was highlighted in a post or comment from 6 months ago 🤪
They’re here. I got banned from no stupid questions for asking in the comments why an incredibly small group of people gets to define how I use language.
What’s the context? Sounds vague.
If I remember correctly I was arguing that “gender assigned at birth” already had a word for it and it was sex. Somebody asked about intersex people. I said I didn’t see the point in altering my language for such a vanishingly small group. Then a week later the powermod decided to look through my comments and came to the conclusion that I was breaking “rule 7” which is some vague shit about being nice or something. That was one of the things that made me abandon lemmy.world. Old reddit mindset. I left reddit 8 years ago because of that crap and never went back.
I say powermod because they have a over a dozen subs started basically all mirroring reddit ones.
Ya you absolutely deserved to catch flack for that.
You are saying that gender is the same as sex and they’re categorically different things. It’s very easy to learn the difference so if you insist on arguing against facts, you’re damn right people are going to butt against you.
You’re arguing against treating people with kindness by pointing to the fact that they’re a minority. Lmao that’s the definition of a bigot.
If I’m having a conversation with an intersex person that actually cares, which with their prevalence I doubt it will ever happen, I will respect them. Why should I have to change the language I use outside of such a rare situation? We have terms like Biological Sex which mean something, and then we have bullshit like “gender assigned at birth” which on purpose mean nothing. Stop trying to make language intentionally tiring.
You had me in the first half sentence.
I completely agree with you. Now defend your point, which I’ve definitely attacked by replying. 🤺
As the antagonist of this thread, I would have to disagree with this statement. I was, initially, very dismayed to see that no one had taken issue with this comment. Alas, here I am, to set things right. Being that most online communities seem to revolve around my person, I thought that I’d share these thoughts that so many of you had been patiently awaiting.
No but fr, huge fan of these communities. The voices that search out an argument don’t seem to gain quite as much traction on fedi (yet, at least). Probably due to them having a larger overall audience on reddit to feel validated by. Hopefully it stays that way!
As the antagonist of this thread, I would have to disagree with this statement. I was, initially, very dismayed to see that no one had taken issue with this comment. Alas, here I am, to set things right. Being that most online communities seem to revolve around my person, I thought that I’d share these thoughts that so many of you had been patiently awaiting.
This killed me 🤣
Another big difference is the lack of vote fuzzing. It’s more obvious when people are abusing the upvote/downvote function, and it feels more meaningful when you know each vote directly represents a real person.
On kbin you can even see publicly which user made each vote, but idk if that functionality is planned or possible on Lemmy. It’s quite useful for combating brigading.
had me in the first half
Lol that first paragraph would make a good copypasta.
I like I can say the words Tiannamen and Square and not feel like bots are out to get me 🙂
The misinfo on Reddit is wild. Just shows people don’t understand federation and how the views of one instances’ moderators doesn’t impact what people can say or do on other instances.
grad users banging at door
I like you!
Yay!
And I like you too.
That literally couldn’t be further from the truth /s
Reddit comment: “Well actually…” straightens fedora
I‘m way more active here. I want that place to survive and become the new home for former redditors.
Same here, forced me out of my lurker shell. 😅
Alright! How was your day? What did you do?
My day was good. And I posted on Lemmy a few times! Like this one!
Weird. I immediately deleted my comment after posting it. Two hours later, you still could answer it (and probably still can see it).
As an actual answer: I’m happy you had a good day!
Yes. It’s far less hostile here and I don’t fear getting downvoted to hell for asking a question.
Excellent point and I totally agree.
Or, to translate your comment to Redditese: “This.” ;)
Mostly lurked on Reddit, trying to comment here and there on lemmy.
Yeah and lemmy still shows upvotes even if you get downvoted. Also it doesn’t automatically hide your comment if you get negative votes which I find annoying on Reddit
Deleted My reddit account , tried all of the fediverse before but always went back to propriety for same reason as anyone else. Everyone is there. With the Reddit exodus I feel this will get the push it needs
I’m not only commenting more (because I’m not afraid people will bite my head off for everything I say) I’m also reading a lot more comments in general. I think it’s for the same reason, the comment threads seem to involve actual constructive discourse. It’s funny that I read fewer posts here than I did at Reddit but I spend a lot more time per post.
because I’m not afraid people will bite my head off for everything I say
How dare you! This is an atrocious thing to say and you should feel bad /s
Yeah, this place sort of just has a better spirit right now. I hope it’s able to hold onto this vibe as it grows.
Oh, don’t worry. There’s still plenty of people who will bite your head off or call you a “concern troll” for genuine opinions that go against the hive mind. Things are just slower.
You hit the nail on the head for me. I comment a lot more, I read more comments and all discussions seems to be way more constructive and people seem actually read eachothers points. I really hope this kind of interactions are here to stay, even when the ferdiverse grows.
I’m more active here. You can actually post comments without idiots being toxic about it for no reason. You can actually make posts without them getting removed for no reason. It’s great.
It feels like you can join in later. There are not thousands of replies in the first few hours. So commenting or participating was a waste of time before in many bigger subs. Noone would ever see your answer anyway or interact with you, so there was really no point.
Here it feels like you are actually participating in some way. I really like it.
That’s true - Lemmy displays new comments above “top” comments, allowing them to be seen by everyone.
You can change the sorting, I actually have this post sorted by “top” right now.
Yeah, the default sorting behavior contributes quite a bit.
Posting on reddit felt kinda like lurking most of the time. Here it’s indeed different, as people tend to answer questions etc. that are made in comments.
When I joined Lemmy I decided I wanted to engange with the community here on Lemmy, since I on Reddit I just lurked, so I’m much more active here.
Not yet. My niche communities don’t exist in the fediverse yet like they do on Reddit, and I do not have the bandwidth to start new communities right now. Excited to watch it grow and continue to contribute where I can.
I was a 10 year lurker on reddit. Now I have my own Lemmy instance
Reddit comments just get washed away by millions of other users. Where as in this place it’s not as competitive so yea I understand what you mean.
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I feel the lack of (public?) karma will at least help with the repost bots here. That is, if you buy the “bots needing karma to look legit” or the “needs to gather karma to post in some subs” arguments. I’ve always found those to be very weird as no sub I’ve seen needs several thousand karma to post and most bots still look like bots.
Competition for karma sounds like more of the same problem with bots: lots of low effort posts to rise those numbers
I posted a showerthought mostly to try how posting works. It seemed to be at the top of… is there a /r/all equivalent here?
Anyway, it was visible enough my sister found my account. It kinda feels like moving from a giant metropolis to a village.
I am because I feel it’s great to be a part of the growing numbers of the platform. Everything is a bit rough around the edges and it gives it a ‘far west’ feel
The number of times I have written a long comment and then simply deleted it before posting is too high.
Lemmy just has a better vibe? Idk
I used to be pretty active on Reddit and I kinda became more and more “sour” and unfriendly over there, because the whole community just dragged me down for some reason.
Here, it’s like a breath of fresh air and most people are actually quite nice. Topics have finally become more interesting and there’s no such thing as an echochamber. Critical thinking seems to be possible here, as well.
So yes, I became way more active again since I’m on Lemmy. Also, I host my own instance and I put a lot of effort into it, so I want it to be in good standing with other instances. Participating in friendly conversations will help with that.
I feel like I can contribute more since the communities are smaller, but I haven’t had much of value to say. Haven’t really found my niche yet like I had on Reddit.
