I have a few consoles setup on my desk and I think it would be neat to be able forgo switching inputs on my monitor.

It could be useful for setting up a picture-in-picture system and using the inputs in EmuVR to play non-Retroarch consoles like my Xbox 360 and original Xbox.

Is this feasible? I would be fine playing at lower resolutions. I have attempted it with a cheap Ali Express HDMI to USB device but the latency threw a wrench into that idea. I am wondering if a more capable capture device could be the answer.

Also would my graphics card play a big factor? I have 1070ti so I feel like it should be fine.

  • @doczombie
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    If all you’re looking to do is nicer input switching, a KVM switch would be a better solve.

    Capture cards would be more useful if you wanted to record the gaming sessions. AFAIK they will always introduce latency as they are usually designed for a situation where that is fine.

    • CorrodedOP
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      610 months ago

      What I am more so after is combining inputs rather than switching them.

      EmuVR for example lets you add custom video files to the CRTs in your virtual bedroom and I think with some effort it would be possible to use the feed from a capture card in it. I would essentially be using the consoles’ controller and playing on real hardware but in a virtual world.

      It would also be nice to be able to simply add some kind of picture-in-picture mode to my monitor so I can watch Seinfeld in the corner of the screen while I play Elden Ring. So I would be fine with a device specifically for that purpose instead of a software solution.

      • @[email protected]
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        810 months ago

        High end capture cards might be able to get a low res stream with minimal delay, but you will still notice the delay. Let alone the software side

        And at that price? You are better off buying a tv that supports picture in picture. Or a tablet

        • @doczombie
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          Yeah… tend to agree - it’s doable but OP would be reaching for some fairly hectic gear to solve a pretty small problem. Consumer monitors with PIP definitely exist and would be cheaper.

          • CorrodedOP
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            110 months ago

            Consumer monitors with PIP definitely exist and would be cheaper.

            They seem pretty hard to come by from what I’ve seen during sporadic searching

            • @doczombie
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              110 months ago

              Not really… just a slightly higher end of gear, most of dells professional series will do it from memory, the gigabyte on my desk does it.

        • CorrodedOP
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          110 months ago

          I don’t think any of those solutions are dealing with video outputs though. They seem to be mostly talking about pop out windows,

  • @TechAdmin
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    I have never seen a capture device with USB interface have any kind of usable latency, you’ll want one with PCI Express interface.

    Elgato makes a capture card with PCI Express interface, I had a friend who used one to play all of his consoles on big virtual screen in VR. I tried out Mario Kart 8 for the Switch and it played great.

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      110 months ago

      Really? No major hiccups?

      Someone else suggested the same thing and it sounds like it might be what I am looking for. I was only using my USB device because it’s what I had on-hand. A PCI-E device would be fine

      • @TechAdmin
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        110 months ago

        Yep, I only played through couple races & was a few beers in, it felt acceptable for me at the time. Not sure how it would be with the latest gen Elgato cards & they are pricey so best to buy from store with a good return policy.

      • Ook the Librarian
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        I have a pci-e capture for composite. I do notice an input delay. I didn’t really try to get a bleeding-edge configuration setup. Just wanted to mention that it might not be as simple as it sounds.

        Have you seen the RetroTink project? I have no first-hand experience, but I’ve heard good things. Not sure if it fits your use-case. It’s used to convert composite video to hdmi with minimal latency. You’d still have to switch monitor inputs, though.

  • @[email protected]
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    I hate to be the negative person, but I think you would be adding so much complications that it would necessarily cause delay at the very least. I’d be fascinated to see if you could prove me wrong, though.

    • CorrodedOP
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      310 months ago

      No worries. I was wondering if anyone else has done it already so I wouldn’t need to do some potentially expensive experimenting. I feel like I’ve seen devices specifically for splitting and sharing inputs somewhere before.

    • @linearchaos
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      110 months ago

      Yep, that’s what we use at work.

    • CorrodedOP
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      110 months ago

      The latency isn’t too bad? At $200 that doesn’t seem too bad compared to some alternatives I’ve seen suggested

      • @[email protected]
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        I used the PCIE card. The latency is imperceptible. It’s meant to be in between your GPU and monitor for streaming from a second PC.

  • @[email protected]
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    310 months ago

    I feel like it’d have to be pretty expensive and you may as well just… buy a 2nd monitor?

  • @Num10ck
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    310 months ago

    search for a video mixer.