Scientists Have Reported a Breakthrough In Understanding Whale Language::Researchers have identified new elements of whale vocalizations that they propose are analogous to human speech, including vowels and pitch.

  • Balder
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    1103 months ago

    Not only did the AI predict elements of whale vocalizations already thought to be meaningful, such as clicks, but it also singled out acoustic properties.

    This is an amazing use of machine learning models.

    • @SuckMyWang
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      3 months ago

      Can’t wait for them to tell us to stop being fuckheads and ruining the planet

    • @[email protected]
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      453 months ago

      Imagine if we managed to make a translator for the speech of an animal, knowing what they say and being able to say something back. Literally speaking with animals. That would have been so amazing and revolutionizing.

      • @MyDogLovesMe
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        243 months ago

        Honestly? We’d just fuck it all up, and find some way to exploit it.

        If they could, the first words they speak to us would likely be akin to “Fuck you!”, or “Just what the fuck exactly is wrong with you people?”

        • @[email protected]
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          93 months ago

          I mean, would animals necessarily make a distinction between humans and other types of predatory or dangerous animal, understand exactly what our impact on their habitat actually is (something like warming temperatures would be hard to associate with us if you didn’t know about human co2 emissions or the greenhouse effect, for instance), and understand that our technology is an extension of our control and not some other, strange symbiotic creature? Considering whales have no technology of their own and therefore probably very little understanding of the concept, they might not realize things like ships and fishing boats are entirely our doing and not some massive surface creature that eats all the fish, that land dwelling creatures like us live on top of like barnacles. And assuming they do understand what our ships are, they might hate or fear us from passed down stories of whalers, or encounters with those whaling ships that still exist, but would they think of us much differently than how they’d think of other predators to whales, like orcas?

          • @[email protected]
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            23 months ago

            They might think the boats have trapped us like they trap whales and fish, they probably want to team up against the menace

          • @JustZ
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            You saying this group is good or bad? It would certainly be transformative to hear what the animals are saying, an ancient fantasy of humankind, magic.

            • @Haggunenons
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              53 months ago

              So far as I know they are great, I mean it is a concern of theirs. They do some cool stuff, they have a fairly active discord with quite a bit in it.

      • Butt Pirate
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        103 months ago

        “Do you think the human chattering means anything?”

        First translation

      • @Haggunenons
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        33 months ago

        Here is an elephant translator:

        https://www.helloinelephant.com/

        I dont think its great or anything, a bit of a gimmick. Really, the most decoded animal language is probably prairie dogs, but I’ve not heard of anyone trying to make a translator for it.

  • @agitatedpotato
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    773 months ago

    Hell yeah, I hope it works for orcas too so I can thank the ones that have been trashing the yachts.

  • Flying Squid
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    713 months ago

    So what I’m hearing is they can literally talk to each other in a way that we do and we still kill them constantly.

    • @theherk
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      663 months ago

      We kill humans constantly too, and we probably obliterated the rest of the hominins also. I’m just saying we have a chequered track record.

        • @theherk
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          93 months ago

          While I always love a Mitchell and Webb reference, I can say I don’t think so. I think the book Humanity by Rutger Bregman is a good reminder that we are mostly good.

          • @SoleInvictus
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            83 months ago

            Agreed. It’s just that it’s really easy for a small amount of people to do a lot of bad things. It’s hard to maintain, harder to build, and easy to destroy.

            • @theherk
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              13 months ago

              Yep. Back left, trying hard not to sexualize Annie.

          • @[email protected]
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            43 months ago

            However take in context that it’s written by a human. Of course we will say we’re mostly good. If Pol Pot wrote a book about Pol Pot he’d probably say he was mostly good too.

            • @theherk
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              33 months ago

              Well believe it or not the book isn’t one page whose entire contents read “We’re good”. It is a whole well reasoned length of prose supporting that with reason.

              • @[email protected]
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                43 months ago

                I understand but it’s written by us lol. Not that any other creature can write a book but consider the absurdity for a moment. We are saying we’re mostly good.

      • @pigup
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        83 months ago

        I share this understanding with you and this is why I say that AI will absolutely kill us because that is what we would do. It’s trained on our data afterall.

      • Flying Squid
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        23 months ago

        I guess, but it feels to me like wiping out a species close to our intelligence is worse that killing each other.

  • littleblue✨
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    363 months ago

    Oooh, look! The translation’s coming through!!

    Thanks… for… all… the…

    For what? Thanks for all the what?!

  • @dhork
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    283 months ago

    “So Long, and thanks for all the fish”

  • @[email protected]
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    283 months ago

    They probably have nothing interesting to say anyway. After a year or two all the scientists will be like “I fucking know you like krill, whale. Shut the fuck up about the krill already”.

  • kingthrillgore
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    263 months ago

    What they’re saying is: “All shall perish” as they proceed to kill people and smash yachts.

  • @just_another_person
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    193 months ago

    So just fucking say what it is! We know they’re intelligent. Just tell us how they all think we’re running the planet.

    • @KnightontheSun
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      333 months ago

      They’ve already dispatched Orcas to send that message. We don’t seem to be getting it.

        • @KnightontheSun
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          263 months ago

          This statement does not fit my joke.

          How can I delete someone else’s comment?

    • @[email protected]
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      “Yoooooooouuuuuuuu guuuuuuuuuuyyyyyyysssss reallllllllllllyyyyyyy suuuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkk. Exccccceeeept Garrrrrrryyyyyyy. Heeeee’sssss niiiiicccceeeeeeeeeooooooooo.” -The Whales probably.

  • @aidan
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    173 months ago

    If complete mutually intelligible communication of complex ideas with another species is undeniably proven, that will be a massive boon for veganism(although of course not all animals are equal), and a legal quagmire. What do you do if they are suffering in ways that we can fix due to their environment? Like humans were, and then we changed our environment. Do you give whales weapons so they can defend themselves from orcas? Do you shoot whale pochers? Do you shoot orcas attacking whales? Do you farm krill for them to eat? Do you drastically alter the ocean surface to be more comfortable for whales?

    After all, most people recognize it as good to alter a person’s natural state(hunting and gathering from caves) for the better, so would that not be the same for animals that are considered essentially people or near-people?

    • @[email protected]
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      343 months ago

      We don’t even treat other humans on earth with dignity and respect and you think anything will change for whales as drastically as you propose? Maybe I’m mega jaded but I see this having little impact.

    • @Linkerbaan
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      3 months ago

      Nobody said anything about complex ideas. Maybe they just said. “food here”

      Speaking to animals would be cool but I doubt they’d have much to share other than basic instincts.

      • @aidan
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        83 months ago

        Nobody said anything about complex ideas.

        Well actually having a language allows way more complex ideas than ever communicated with an animal before

    • schmorp
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      12 months ago

      What is this idea about not eating non-humans I communicate with. I speak with my plants too and they entertain complex thought. Do I have to stop eating them? There is nothing out there that isn’t a person. Continue eating as you see fit and be kind to the living.

      • @aidan
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        12 months ago

        Speaking to something doesn’t mean it understands and reacts to it.

        • schmorp
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          12 months ago

          Speaking is an act of changing reality, always. If you want to go as far as calling this ‘speaking to’ is up to you.

  • @paddirn
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    143 months ago

    Just in time for them to go extinct. It’ll be helpful in a few hundred years though when we need to travel back in time again.