A damages trial begins Monday in a case in which a judge has already ruled that Rudy Giuliani is liable for defamation.
When Rudy Giuliani steps into federal court on Monday, the only mystery will be how severely he is sanctioned for lies about the 2020 election.
U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell has already found him liable for defaming two Georgia election workers — Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss — who faced threats and harassment after Giuliani and Donald Trump falsely accused them of manipulating ballots after the 2020 election. Those lies fueled conspiracy theories that have festered to this day.
Now, a jury in Washington, D.C., will be asked to determine the amount of damages Giuliani must pay for defamation, infliction of emotional distress and other punitive costs. Freeman and Moss haven’t specified a precise amount but are instead preparing to introduce expert testimony to estimate the harm they have experienced.
Whatever the jury decides, it won’t be enough. This is absolutely aiding in overthrowing the government of the United States. Anything less than life in prison, which he won’t get, is not enough.
You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart, right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.
-Donald Trump, treasonous foreign intelligence asset
Allow me to be smug and say that that’s one thing that makes me better than Trump- I don’t think the state should have the power to execute anyone for any crime. Not even treason.
For the record, neither do I.
I do, however, find it infuriating that so-called Christians will happily support the death penalty despite it being against their religion, all the while frothing at the mouth over abortions and homosexuality.
Deuteronomy and Leviticus specify the death penalty for many many things.
Those two books matter more than the entire new testament.
What he meant by that was “these people receive pardons from the president now” a la Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, and George Papadopoulos.
This isn’t the trial for trying to overthrow the Georgia election, this is the one for defaming the two election workers.
It’s to figure out how they will divide his last two cents.
Anything less than life in prison, which he won’t get, is not enough.
This is a civil defamation case. Prison isn’t an option in any civil case, only damages are.
You’re thinking of the GA RICO criminal case, where prison is not only “on the table,” it’s all but guaranteed with a conviction.
In the days between his election and swearing in, Rudy happened to be on scene when a child got hit by a car. The EMS crew wanted to take the child to the nearest trauma center, but the distraught mother wanted to go to another hospital, much further away. Instead of deferring to the professionals, Rudy sided with the mother and strong armed them into taking her where she wanted to go. Then Rudy played off how he’d ‘saved’ the child in the media and spread lies about how the crew were being lazy and not attending to the victim.
Rudy’s self inflicted trauma is a pleasure to watch.
Happening to be in the right place at the wrong time and exploiting a tragedy for his own benefit was Rudy’s political bread and butter. 9/11 was a mother load of goodwill for him.
Then he decided to work for Trump, and now he’s a bankrupt pariah who will forever be remembered as the guy who was melting on camera in a landscaping company’s parking lot 100ft from a dildo store.
Exactly. His great reputation after 9/11 wasn’t earned, but he could have coasted for the rest of his life as “America’s Mayor” talking about how great he was during 9/11. People who looked into the details would have known better, but 90% of the public would have thought him a hero.
But then he needed to go all in on Trump and Trump’s attempt to overthrow the election. Now, even if people don’t know how he wasn’t really “America’s Mayor” on 9/11, they know him as the hair dye leaking incompetent conspiracy theorist of a lawyer for Trump who tried and failed to overturn the election.
Rudy Giuliani is a neverending source of schadenfreude.
It’s my hope, that things get so much worse for him that he ends up remembering Four Seasons as a good day.
Now, now, the landscape company and hair dye meltdown were two DIFFERENT events. :)
The landscape company one was where he learned, live on camera, Trump lost.
Plus, he knew the yogurt contained fat all those years ago
You Boomers and your Seinfeld references…
Elder millennial, thank you!
just kidding. Seinfeld is like ‘I Love Lucy’ or ‘The Flintstones.’
Tbf, my nearest hospital is known for snatching defeat from the maw of victory. Please take me to the one a few more miles away.
I think the problem isn’t necessary where the mother wanted to take her child.
It’s the bad mouthing of the paramedics that goes from “politician gonna politic” to “this guy is a scumbag”.
Yeah. My mind just goes there.
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/16/nyregion/giuliani-challenges-ems-at-accident.html
Cool story, bro. Here’s what actually happened.
Do you have a link to any sources about this?
Would make for an interesting read
Thanks for the link.
I loved his work as co Star on Borat 2
Very convincing work. Not everyone can pull off scumbag/sleezeball so well.
His life? I thought the punishment for treason was death?
You look at that ghoul and tell me he’s even alive.
He‘ll surely be attorney general or something similar in the next Trump administration.
This isn’t the trial for trying to overthrow the Georgia election, this is the one for defaming the two election workers.
It’s to figure out how they will divide his last two cents.
The judge already found Giulianni libel for defamation. This trial is for damages.
Liable.
