What to say to people who say this kinda of thing? Usually I just say “ok then”

  • Pons_Aelius
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    791 year ago

    Some variation of the below:

    Can I have your phone with the messaging apps unlocked?

    Can I log into your personal email?

    Can I see your tax returns?

    Can I set up cameras and microphones in your house?

    Can I place a GPS tracker on your car?

    • Otter
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      121 year ago

      It also works with opening up the info to anyone, not just you. That’s one of the key issues, even if a trusted party is accessing the info there’s a chance that a malicious party can get access too. Or the trusted party becomes malicious later (government changes, company changes hands, etc.)

      People generally don’t want everything in their home live streamed 24/7. If anything it has the potential for abuse, like if someone knows when you’ll be out of home for a few hours

    • AItoothbrush
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      41 year ago

      Insurance companies in some countries give you a discount if you agree to put a tracker on your car…

      • @[email protected]
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        31 year ago

        Or use their app on your phone, which will “detect your driving patterns” and adjust your rates accordingly.

        But honestly, even without all that, modern cars already have trackers and Internet connections even without your knowledge. (Mine did a couple of impromptu OTA updates for the media center at the beginning. It also has an SOS button on the roof, which you need to be subscribed to use, but can activate the subscription through the button. This implies there is a GPS tracker, as well as a cellular connection).

  • @Synthead
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    1 year ago

    Saying you don’t need privacy because you have nothing to hide is the same as saying you don’t need freedom of speech because you have nothing to say

  • @[email protected]
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    431 year ago

    Ask to watch them pee. When they say no, ask what they do when they pee that they don’t want you to know about; that is the only reason they could want privacy, right?

    • @VerseAndVermin
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      231 year ago

      Ask to watch them pee.

      You went weird real quick.

    • @WhatAmLemmy
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      81 year ago

      Ask them to install a camera in their bathroom, and every room of their house.

      After all, if they’ve got nothing to hide, they’ve got nothing to fear!

    • @ritchie
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      71 year ago

      I always ask if they have a curtain. Why have one, when you have nothing to hide? It blocks the view, sunlight…

  • @[email protected]
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    331 year ago

    “Okay, then hand me your phone unlocked and give me as much time as I want to poke around your browser history, files, and photos.”

  • @[email protected]
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    301 year ago

    Medical privacy is a great example.

    Consider a situation like Texas right now where abortion went from a normal, legal thing to something that you can be fined and jailed for.

    Would such a person be OK with the state having access to their medical records so they could jail or fine them?

    People need to understand that much of privacy precautions are “layers” of security against “what if” scenarios that can sometimes be very real.

  • @LazyPhilosopher
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    261 year ago

    “Sweet let me see your search history. I’ve always been curious what your taste in porn is”

  • @[email protected]
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    221 year ago

    “well, let me come over to your house uninvited and walk around the rooms looking through your personal belongings”.

  • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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    211 year ago

    I take out a pad and pen, “what’s your bank credentials? Also, your [social media] credentials? I won’t use it against you. Promise. … No? I thought you have nothing to hide?” I put the pad away, and hold out my hand, “let me see you phone. I want to look through your pictures and internet history. … No again? Huh. I guess you do care about privacy.”

    • @[email protected]
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      41 year ago

      even blatant violations dont matter, they will still use and do the same things without caring, that’s the fucked up part lol. I’ve seen this so many times.

  • @OlPatchy2Eyes
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    141 year ago

    Giving up your right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is like giving up your freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.

  • @KrapKake
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    131 year ago

    Ask them if they poop with the door open.

  • I Cast Fist
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    121 year ago

    I guess they think they have nothing to hide, because they don’t know, or don’t care about, how their own information can be used against them.

    Because it doesn’t happen in an obviously invasive manner, they don’t think it’s a big deal. It’s harder to associate an abstract concept to actual value.

  • @[email protected]
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    111 year ago

    That’s a choice they can make for themselves, not a choice tech companies and governments should make for everyone. If they want to trade their privacy, and I don’t - fine. All I want is the power to choose and know that choice will be respected.

    • @cheese_greater
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      41 year ago

      I love the selfish/enmeshed subtle agenda to that. I will decide and since I believe I’m covered, I required everyone to be compelled into the same dragnet I bless with my consensual presence. We may all be fish but there’s oxygen in heaven/the sky

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        If they’re not arguing in good faith my advice is don’t argue. Don’t roll around with pigs - you just get covered in shit and the pigs like it.