European intelligence suggests that Russia may launch an attack on Europe during the winter of 2024-2025 if the United States finds itself “without a leader” following the 2024 U.S. presidential election, the German tabloid Bild reported on Dec. 23, citing an anonymous European intelligence source.
It should be noted that anything the “Bild” reports should be read with a large degree of scepticism. This is a Tabloid masquerading as a newspaper similar to the “The Sun” in the UK.
The only thing the rest of Europe has to worry about from Russia is nukes. Only the smoothest brains would worry about a Russian land invasion after Ukraine. Putin, and Russia, are a kleptocratic joke. They failed to control a single ex “colony” of 1/5th their population — even before the world started mass-armament of their opponent. Most of their prior military expertise is decomposing in Eastern Ukraine.
If they were dumb enough to take their war beyond Ukraine, they would be hit 10x harder than anything to date, and all of their remaining military personnel and infrastructure would be neutralised within months. They would lose Ukraine and probably the whole country. Putin might be a psychopathic megalomaniac, but I doubt he, or any of his fellow kleptocrats, are completely and irrationally suicidal.
I don’t know. The Sun goes far beyond the tabloid quality to reach sheer stupidity.
I give you some real Bild headlines:
The Desert Sun - Will we all become Africans?
UFO sect wants to clone Hitler
Monkey triggers alien panic in China
Bundeswehr soldiers - Fatter and fatter! Will we soon need new tanks?
Soccer - First goal scored with a penis!
That is the high quality we are talking about.
Okay, that makes an interesting contest…
The only thing the rest of Europe has to worry about from Russia is nukes. Only the smoothest brains would worry about a Russian land invasion after Ukraine. Putin, and Russia, are a kleptocratic joke. They failed to control a single ex “colony” of 1/5th their population — even before the world started mass-armament of their opponent.
If they were dumb enough to take their war beyond Ukraine, they would be hit 10x harder than anything to date, and all of their remaining military personnel and infrastructure would be neutralised within months. They would lose Ukraine and probably the whole country. Putin might be a psychopathic megalomaniac, but I doubt he, or any of his fellow kleptocrats, are completely and irrationally suicidal.
On one hand, they can’t be that stupid.
On the other hand… as we’ve seen… they very much can be that stupid…
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Nah, this is pro Ukraine, pro war industry (and pro Biden?) propaganda. Why would they fight NATO and more importantly with what means when they can barely manage to hold line in Ukraine.
If they can be sure they can snatch ‘disputed territories’ like Transnistria, well, they will.
This war is highly political. Showing a small territory gain to the russian public is more important to Putin than any long-term consequences with NATO.
Did you read the article? It talks like they will be marching to Paris or something. But even if it is Transnistria, how would they do that with Moldova’s one foot in NATO and Transnistria positioned between it and Ukraine?
Quickly and haphazardly, while it’s not fully in NATO. Using ‘local militia’ with russian passports, most probably.
With the rate they’re invading Ukraine, I won’t worry too much about them invading any other country. I’d worry more about Russian to be honest
Russia is banking on delaying things until fascists get into power in America again to get USA support.
That’s what we should worry about more.
I can not imagine the US supporting Russia directly. I can hardly imagine them not supporting EU in a war against Russia but even if that happens I can’t imagine Russia being able to spread their focus across multiple targets, especially targets that activelly can be defended by other nato allies
Also, Russia is a large landmass, but 1/6th the population of the EU, most of their population is centered in a few large cities.
And compared to the EU, even before losing a ton of gear in their venture into Ukraine, they are hilariously outdated and underequiped.
It’s been a while since I last checked, but I’m pretty sure Ukraine is in Europe.
As a citizen of a member country I admit I often use “Europe” as a shorthand for “the EU”. Sorry but “Americans” (people from the US) definitely don’t get to complain about it though
It’s consistent with the Russian (garbage) perception that Ukraine is part of Russia, though.
What chutzpah, Russia trying to intimidate people to vote for Trump with threats, while stuck in a quagmire of their own making in Ukraine. I’m sure Europe is shaking in their boots as they watch Russian soldiers ground to paste in just one country, let alone numerous European countries.
Poland or Finland alone could take what remains of Russia.
Poland is champing at the bit. Finland is just stoically polishing their sniper rifles.
Never underestimate desperate dictators, they can do anything just to hang on to the throne just one more second, even if it means to destroy their very kingdom.
With what Soliders I ask - at this moment in time, it would seem Russia is too busy putting them into the meat grinder of the war with Ukraine
Regeneration of military forces for Russia is a matter of political will, not military capacity. The casualties are incredibly steep for what was supposed to be a quick and modern war - but they’re nowhere near what it would take to remove Russia’s, or any other country of comparable size’s, capacity to raise large formations of troops.
I highly doubt that EU offensive is on the table, but, well, other than what you’ve said, these aging bastards won’t have any repercussions for whatever they’d order. They don’t lose anything but Vanya units on the map, they’d likely find a great retirement somewhere in Africa in the end. They can gamble whatever they have and still stay on the top.
It’s a question of how EU and NATO can respond, if the’d respond. There’s a need for more tools to make oligarchs, modern-time boyars, lose everything and suffer, maybe even Mossad-style, in order for gating any new offensives. To make them know they won’t be safe after doing X.
Imagine if, all at once, the whole cabinet would fly into Uganda or wherever country Wagner PMC took hold of. Is there an instrument to make them face anything then? Or they can just sniff coke and fuck for the next twenty years? Would there be any consequencies?
To Putin, life of people is nothing. Just throw a million as cannon fodders, and he will be laughing as long as his men don’t shoot nukes at this point.
You are mostly right, but why won’t he though? Why didn’t he nuke Harkov, or Kiyv? There’s still something he or his henchmen care about, something setting their limits. And I hope EU intelligence knows about it to rationally plan their response scenarios.
He knows that NATO won’t be ok with them launching nukes…
Also it’s Kharkiv, not Harkov(preferable pronunciation)
He also knew it wouldn’t be ok with an open invasion. He knew it wouldn’t with Crimea and FSB’s Strelkov in DNR. In Georgia in 2008. In Chechnya. But he gambled.
And for so long no one cared besides directly endangered countries - like it changed your mil in 2014-2022 period from soviet-like pathetic scenes we saw in Donetsk videos (thanks to soviet corruption) to a reliable NATO-trained corps you operate now in a hurry. It’s only after the fact something is happening. And that’s not enough.
This dying piece of shit can think he can do anything, even nukes, if he knows the response would be slow and unmeaningful, or that he’s dying anyway. He needs something to fear in order to care. And now all we know is that he launched everything but nukes, meddled in Ukraine, EU and US policies, but is yet to push the red button. Haha, kay. Why countries having military spending more than that shithole’s gdp even enable that? He needed to have a fucking knife pointed onto his bowels way before everything I mentioned ever happened.
But yet, there we are. And as a paranoidal, not generally well-in-mind after all this madness person, I fear this fuckhead can bomb Kiyv after an obligatory erasion of Voronezh. Until there’s something to hurt him back. And I’m afraid there’re still not enough knifes behind him to really hope he wouldn’t make a parting gift. There’s a lack of a guarantee he wouldn’t do that. There should be one. There should’ve been one before it all happened.
Kharkiv it is. Thanks for reminding me. I’m still a little bit habituated by soviet-russian namings ):
Unleash NATO
I understand many here still thinking that if Russia did not conquer all Ukraine in three days, it means it lost. But right now putin in the winning position. Russia annexed four oblasts, created Azov sea it’s inner lake, and have ability to demand ceasefire on its terms. I can see how western countries in fatigue could force Ukraine to start peace talks. Meanwhile russia actively working on help Trump win. Also if AfD would win next year, there is big chance one of the major european workhorses will also took russian side. We could not count Orban’s Hungary and Slovakia on west side right now already, and both those countries are bordering Ukraine. If russia really plan that attack, they could use shock tactics, like using nuclear weapon that settled down in Belarus to nuke Poland. After neutralizing it, meat assaults of Baltic states is not so hard, unfortunately, considering population’s disproportion. Do not underestimate your military counterpart. And right now russia is the one.
putin in the winning position
It’s here, I found the russian bot!
Even has a Russian sock puppet boosting them
I understand many here still thinking that if Russia did not conquer all Ukraine in three days, it means it lost. But right now putin in the winning position.
Man, the level of cope here is fucking hilarious.
I can see how western countries in fatigue could force Ukraine to start peace talks.
What fatigue? Do you expect them to say “hey, we spend billions on increasing production capacities. Now we are tired from all that hard work and will just disassemble instead of using them?”
I’m guessing it is referring how the us “conservatives” and GOP are sucking off Putin
