• TurboWafflz
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    3611 months ago

    Last time I tried bard it told me about a time in the early 2000s when computers had spoon slots to store your spoon

    • @ChicoSuave
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      1011 months ago

      LAN events often had food and a good host would serve food that doesn’t cause greasy fingers. It was common in the early 90s to have chili while using the Internet, back when it was called ‘the world wide web’ by very serious news anchors. (There was even a Futurama joke about chili on the screen after Scruffy was eating while browsing porn!)

      Spoon slots fit in the 5 1/4 slot and had a manual ejecting tray. It was exciting to see cup holders get automatic doors and I was waiting for spoon slots to get some sweet upgrades but they faded into obscurity before the internet took off and no one seems to remember. Or worse, the say that it never happened. Like I would forget my favorite part of PC gaming!

      Bard was only wrong about the year though. Spoons disappeared as finger foods took over gaming. It was fun while that weird little moment in history lasted.

  • Lvxferre
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    I was trying to trigger the same output from Bard, and it answered correctly; they probably addressed that very specific case after it got some attention. Then of course I started messing around, first replacing “elephants” with “snakes” and then with “potatoes”. And here’s the outcome of the third prompt:

    My sides went into orbit. The worst issue isn’t even claiming that snakes aren’t animals (contradicting the output of the second prompt, by the way), but the insane troll logic that Bard shows when it comes to hypothetical scenarios. In an imaginative scenario where potatoes have legs, the concept of “legless” does apply to them, because they would have legs to lose.

    • @Clubbing4198
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      511 months ago

      Just went into a coughing fit from this, its so laughable. So are snakes just not in the animal kingdom at all?? I bet they are in the same class as viruses.

      • Lvxferre
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        111 months ago

        So are snakes just not in the animal kingdom at all??

        Of course they aren’t! Snakes, fish, slugs, they’re all moving fungi. (On another matter, each spider is 2x more of an animal than your typical mammal. 4x than birds and us.) /s

    • @AnUnusualRelic
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      311 months ago

      Potatoes, not being biological, are therefore mineral. This concludes today’s lesson.

    • @[email protected]
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      311 months ago

      I corrected it (incorrectly) and it did slightly better. Then I corrected it again and it decided 10 elephants with proper leg counts should be 32.

    • Ook the Librarian
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      211 months ago

      How many legs could a legless potato have if a potato could be legless?

      • Lvxferre
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        211 months ago

        [I’ll answer this seriously but dunno if you’re being serious or just playing along the ridiculous setting.]

        In this scenario, the matter here would be the other potatoes. Because, once you say that two of the four potatoes are legless, you’re implying that the other two have legs; as such, the sum of the legs of all four potatoes would not be zero.

        • Ook the Librarian
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          311 months ago

          Lol, sorry. I just meant that to be confusing to artificial intelligence. I didn’t mean to bother your actual intelligence. But good answer.

          • Lvxferre
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            411 months ago

            You didn’t bother me at all, don’t worry. I was just worried about spoiling a potential joke that I didn’t get.

            And you know what, I asked Bard the question. Here’s the output:

            That’s a fun thought experiment! Since potatoes are not biological organisms, they don’t have the capacity for legs in the first place. So, if we enter the realm of hypotheticals, the number of legs a legless potato could have becomes entirely up to our imagination.

            Here are some options to consider:

            • Zero: This is the most straightforward answer, sticking to the literal meaning of “legless.” Even in a hypothetical scenario, a potato without legs would still have, well, no legs.
            • One: Maybe the potato has a single sprout that acts as a multifunctional limb, allowing it to hop, roll, or reach for nutrients.
            • Two: Perhaps the potato has two root tendrils that it uses to navigate and stabilize itself.
            • Infinite: Why not get whimsical? Imagine a potato covered in a multitude of tiny, spider-like legs, allowing it to scurry across the ground.

            Ultimately, the number of legs your legless potato has depends on your creativity! There are no wrong answers in this thought experiment, so have fun and explore the possibilities.

            Who knows, maybe your imaginative potato with its unique number of legs could become the star of a quirky children’s book or a surreal art piece!

            A+ for effort, Bard. F for understanding.

            • Ook the Librarian
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              411 months ago

              It did better than I thought it would considering how poorly in worked on your original. I was trying to add confusion but I think it cleared it up.

              Yeah, “potential joke” is good way to categorize my reply. Just being whimsical with what the chat bot wrote.

  • Lvxferre
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    1111 months ago

    [Double reply to avoid editing my earlier comment]

    From the HN thread:

    It’s a good example how this models are not answering based on any form of understanding and logic reasoning but probabilistic likelihood in many overlapping layers. // Through this also may not matter if this creates a good enough illusion of understanding and intelligence.

    I think that the first sentence is accurate, but I disagree with the second one.

    Probabilistic likelihood is not enough to create a good illusion of understanding/intelligence. Relying on it will create situations as in the OP, where the bot outputs nonsense because of an unexpected prompt.

    To avoid that, the model would need some symbolic (or semantic, or conceptual) layer[s], and handle the concepts being conveyed by the tokens, not just the tokens themselves. But that’s already closer to intelligence than to prob likelihood.

  • @ghurab
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    1011 months ago

    Could someone ask a todler the same question and report back?