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.world hasn’t defederated from either of these two instances. They’ve blocked .world users from accessing those 3 communities from .world. You, as a .world user can still access any community across those 2 instances, aside from the 3 mentioned. Any users on those instances can still access .world communities.

I can’t answer for them so I can’t really answer that. All I can do is say that if it were me and I was unsure of the legal situation I would do the same as they’ve done until I was sure of the legal situation.

I don’t know for sure the server is in the US, but the company providing the server certainly have servers in the US (as well as Germany and I think Finland). The server’s behind cloudflare so it’s difficult to know for sure the exact geographical location.

I’m not suggesting that any rule breaking occurred on any of the blocked communities, I’m simply saying that I think it’s very wise for someone without recourse to a high priced legal team and the backing of a mutibillion dollar company to err on the side of caution first. I’m not an Admin of a Lemmy instance so I can’t say what’s right. All I know is, if I was in a similar position I’d do the same thing until I knew for a fact no huge multinational media org could turn me into toast.

I think this is the situation. The instance owner is not a US citizen, but the server it seems is located in the US. Based on what this Admin has posted, it seems very likely that this is a precautionary block whilst the instance owner gets some kind of US legal opinion (not from some randoms on the internet, an actual legal opinion) on his personal liability and what preemptive steps he should take should any instance his instance is federated with be perceived as breaking US law.

This seems nothing but sensible to me. We’re talking about ordinary people here with families, jobs, bills to pay. No instance owner has a million dollar legal team at their instant disposal. If Sony or Disney come after them due to ignorance of what they should’ve done, their life is ruined.

Once the instance owner has that legal knowledge they may choose to remove these bans.

In the meantime, accessing those communities, should people want to, is as easy as clicking a link. They’re not gone. They’re not removed. They’re simply not accessible from this instance whilst you’re logged in to this instance.

Not sa far as I know.

Who’s that?

People who enjoy leopards eating their face?

Latest URNE album and the new Kataklysm album for me.

I’ve seen the controversy where lemmy.world defederated from 2 piracy instances.

No they didn’t. They blocked 3 communities from 2 different instances. All other communities on those instances are available to .world users and .world is still available to all users on those two instances.

Blocking individual communities is not the same thing as defederating from those instances.

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Did you even read the post?

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world’s users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assitance in obtaining it

I dunno man, when it comes right down to it, who are any of us really? Y’know?

Neither of those two memes you just linked to are about religion or criticising the Islamic religion, they’re both unoriginal, tired takes on trying to equate muslims with terrorism.

Do you post memes about violent attacks by christians? Or Judaists? Or Hindus? Or Bhuddists? Or is it just the Muslims you save that for?

I’m not saying they are or aren’t. I’m simply saying that we all know the big media companies go after people at the drop of a hat. They recently tried to get reddit to expose the identities of people discussing piracy over there. To their credit reddit told them no and defended themselves legally. And that’s the issue. The media companies can accuse anyone of anything if it even slightly smells like piracy and the target has to legally defend themselves. This is fine if you’re a multibillion valued company. Not so fine if you’re just some guy who just wanted to run a Lemmy instance out of his own pocket.

I don’t know about you but engaging a lawyer and going to court to defend myself would be a massive financial drain. And to risk that on simply the hope that a court might find in my favour is far too big of a risk. Then add on all the unwanted public exposure, the internet notoriety etc. Fuck that.

That’s a bit naive, knowing what we know about the sharks that run the large media corporations. For your average instance owner, it’s not a question of being found not liable, it’s the fact that you as an ordinary guy with an ordinary life and an ordinary income suddenly have to defend yourself legally with all the exposure and expense that entails, from day one.

Nothing. It’s just 3 communities on dbzero that are blocked and as far as I know, they’re only blocked on .world. There’s no defederation so you as a user signed up to dbzero can still participate in any .world community and any .world user can still interact with communities on dbzero apart from the three named.

Might be worth remembering here that Lemmy instances, including .world are hosted by regular people. Not massive multinational companies worth billions who can engage the best legal talent around.

If Hollywood comes after a Lemmy instance, Holywood have a huge legal team and endless money. The Lemmy instance has some guy. They could quite literally destroy a persons life. With that in mind, I don’t blame any instance owners for erring on the side of taking a stance that won’t put them in the legal firing line.

Also, installation instructions that don’t assume you’re already an expert.