Lucifer, which means the bearer of light, in Greek mythology represented by Prometheus, who stole divine fire to give it to humans. The clergy naturally did not like this symbology, always doing everything to keep the people ignorant and for this reason, they turned Lucifer into a symbol of evil, just as they turned the snake that incited humans to eat from the tree of knowledge into sin. original. The true root of evil has always been the clergy for its own power and as a tool for the powerful which with a cultured people could not exist. Only possible to stay in power with an ignorant and submissive people with feelings of guilt.
Interesting. But not to be facetious, if one reads carefully, literally and critically the story of garden of Eden, one could easily asks “Okay, what is actually bad with eating the apple of knowledge? Everyone wants knowledge, right?” I have thought about this when I was a child. But I brushed it off because the church teach that the moral of the story is to follow god etc, or you will be punished. I guess the point of that story worked on me as I let go of that nagging feeling the it doesn’t add up. Religion discourages one from thinking critically even at the face of irrational and illogical inconsistencies; resulting in adopting a double think.
The thing is, not liking something doesn’t make it less real. A child submitting to their parents is a good thing, so is someone following the law. The only difference is that God will never issue a bad command.
It’s not like unquestioning obedience to authority hasn’t led to despair, and to both figurative and literal mass suicide before. The Germans only said they were only following orders from their fuhrer; and so were the people in Jonestown following their prophet’s order to drink poison.
Plenty of nonsensical rules in the bible, my friend. And Yahweh has issued so many bad commands, particularly in the Old testaments with violent punishments. Like, ordering to kill first born children, who have nothing to do with enslaving Jews as they are too young to be involved nor make any decisions. Not to mention the really weird accounts on Lot’s family, starting with the arbitrary command to not look back while Sodom was being smite, resulting in Lot’s wife turning to a pillar of salt.
I don’t like all of these, and even if they are true accounts, then the whole world just blindly follows a power-tripping deity who punishes innocent children, and turn someone into a pillar of salt for breaking a command that serves no purpose and has no sense in its nature whatsoever. Only an absolute ruler could make such rules and commands with no sense-- like ordering not to eat the fruit of knowledge. What is so bad with eating the fruit of knowledge? Everyone wants knowledge after all, right?
The firstborn children in Egypt likely went to heaven, as is common with children who do not understand sin. As for Sodom and Gomorrah, the destruction of those cities were very much justified.
All these ara adaptation from (in part even literal) from old Mesopotamian, Babylonic (Gilgamesh) and Egypth (Book of Death) Myth. The Bible (old Testament) isn’t an excepcion, the new testament are fractions of over 80 documents of which 4 were chosen at convenience, very shortened to conform to the dogma and which were published between the years 60 and the year 300 after Christ. None of these were written by the alleged authors, but by monks in those years. All the rest was either destroyed or archived as apocryphos.
In other words, the Bible is no more truthful than a Harry Potter novel.
Although some events in ancient myths are based on real events (eg the Great Flood), they were related by ignorant and superstitious people who sacrificed goats to have a better harvest, stories that were embellished for centuries, until the raft where a peasant saved his life. family, his chickens and goats, became an aircraft carrier with all the animals on earth.
Lucifer, which means the bearer of light, in Greek mythology represented by Prometheus, who stole divine fire to give it to humans. The clergy naturally did not like this symbology, always doing everything to keep the people ignorant and for this reason, they turned Lucifer into a symbol of evil, just as they turned the snake that incited humans to eat from the tree of knowledge into sin. original. The true root of evil has always been the clergy for its own power and as a tool for the powerful which with a cultured people could not exist. Only possible to stay in power with an ignorant and submissive people with feelings of guilt.
Shush… if theists could read they’d be upset!
I would care as much as a news story about a sack of rice being stolen in China.
Nah, kind of hard to considering that Prometheus was written long after Genesis and the book of Isaiah which referred to Lucifer
When did the story of Prometheus came? I assumed the Greek myths either came before, or more or less at the same time as the Torah.
500-600BC.
Book of Isaiah: 740BC
Book of Genesis: 1400BC
Interesting. But not to be facetious, if one reads carefully, literally and critically the story of garden of Eden, one could easily asks “Okay, what is actually bad with eating the apple of knowledge? Everyone wants knowledge, right?” I have thought about this when I was a child. But I brushed it off because the church teach that the moral of the story is to follow god etc, or you will be punished. I guess the point of that story worked on me as I let go of that nagging feeling the it doesn’t add up. Religion discourages one from thinking critically even at the face of irrational and illogical inconsistencies; resulting in adopting a double think.
The thing is, not liking something doesn’t make it less real. A child submitting to their parents is a good thing, so is someone following the law. The only difference is that God will never issue a bad command.
It’s not like unquestioning obedience to authority hasn’t led to despair, and to both figurative and literal mass suicide before. The Germans only said they were only following orders from their fuhrer; and so were the people in Jonestown following their prophet’s order to drink poison.
Plenty of nonsensical rules in the bible, my friend. And Yahweh has issued so many bad commands, particularly in the Old testaments with violent punishments. Like, ordering to kill first born children, who have nothing to do with enslaving Jews as they are too young to be involved nor make any decisions. Not to mention the really weird accounts on Lot’s family, starting with the arbitrary command to not look back while Sodom was being smite, resulting in Lot’s wife turning to a pillar of salt.
I don’t like all of these, and even if they are true accounts, then the whole world just blindly follows a power-tripping deity who punishes innocent children, and turn someone into a pillar of salt for breaking a command that serves no purpose and has no sense in its nature whatsoever. Only an absolute ruler could make such rules and commands with no sense-- like ordering not to eat the fruit of knowledge. What is so bad with eating the fruit of knowledge? Everyone wants knowledge after all, right?
The firstborn children in Egypt likely went to heaven, as is common with children who do not understand sin. As for Sodom and Gomorrah, the destruction of those cities were very much justified.
All these ara adaptation from (in part even literal) from old Mesopotamian, Babylonic (Gilgamesh) and Egypth (Book of Death) Myth. The Bible (old Testament) isn’t an excepcion, the new testament are fractions of over 80 documents of which 4 were chosen at convenience, very shortened to conform to the dogma and which were published between the years 60 and the year 300 after Christ. None of these were written by the alleged authors, but by monks in those years. All the rest was either destroyed or archived as apocryphos. In other words, the Bible is no more truthful than a Harry Potter novel. Although some events in ancient myths are based on real events (eg the Great Flood), they were related by ignorant and superstitious people who sacrificed goats to have a better harvest, stories that were embellished for centuries, until the raft where a peasant saved his life. family, his chickens and goats, became an aircraft carrier with all the animals on earth.