The UN has denied that the estimated death toll of women and children in the war in Gaza has been revised downward, pointing towards a confusion between the total numbers of dead bodies recorded, and the number of those who have so far been fully identified.
After the Gaza health ministry’s revised totals of those killed first appeared on the website of the UN’s office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs (Ocha), they were quickly seized on as proof by pro-Israel media and commentators that the UN had previously been exaggerating the toll.
They showed 24,686 dead which appeared to be a downward revision from the figure of about 35,000 which had been reported earlier in May, with 7,797 children and 4,959 women confirmed dead, about half the toll cited in previous reports. But the UN said on Monday that estimated overall death toll remained about 35,000.
So the appropriate reaction to what Hamas did would’ve been what exactly? Waving the white flag and rolling over?
If only there was something between waiving the white flag and rolling over and 40,000 dead. Oh well.
The poster they were responding to said greater than zero was too many. They questioned that. To assume that means all 40k is reasonable is just a gross and blatant misrepresentation of what was said.
Why?
Yeah. Hamas is using the citizens of Gaza as human shield from day one. It was impossible to fight this way with 0 casualties. I was only asking how that person imagined an appropriate response if even a single dead person was too much.
Bibi should be gone today rather than tomorrow - but Israel clearly had a right to respond to what Hamas did and the fact that Hamas was playing dirty all the time makes it impossible to respond in a way that doesn’t cause civil deaths.
'questioned"
Unfortunately for a leader like Bibi there isn’t a middle ground. Even more unfortunately the Israeli right wing has too much political power to allow a prime minister to be elected that would find a middle ground.
Hamas horribly miscalculated when they attacked Israel on October 7th, and now the innocents of Gaza are paying the price.
No, I think Hamas knew to expect this as a possibility. I think they decided that it was do something now, or continue to slowly die under Israel’s oppression.
No they knew they had to do something now or they would eventually be overthrown. People forget that there were mass protest all in Gaza last summer against Hamas. Protest that were brutally suppressed by the way.
Sources for anyone interested.
Thousands take to streets in Gaza in rare public display of discontent with Hamas
Gazans in rare protest against Hamas government
Gaza Protests Struggle to Gain Traction as Police Crack Down
Despite Hamas’ crackdown, Gaza protests continue in rare defiance
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So you think they chose right and this is the best outcome for the people of Gaza?
No one said that.
That said, it is a fact that there’s never been so much support for Palestinians
I’m not saying that.
Appropriate or moral? Because I don’t think you people consider thos things the same.