• @TimeNaan
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    1017 days ago

    No, for horizontal, anarchist mass organization

    • @ramenshaman
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      17 days ago

      Anarchy is a great way to get taken over by another country. As far as I know, anyway, maybe I’m missing something.

      • @TimeNaan
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        17 days ago

        Historically, anarchists have been very good at organizing effective and well motivated armies. Usually with democratically elected officers. Look up the Black Army of Makhno, CNT-FAI, EZLN and YPG, these are all good examples of anarchist (or anarchist-adjacent) armies.

        • @Lumisal
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          817 days ago

          Statistically and unfortunately however, they have been very bad at not being taken over by non-anarchy eventually. And it’ll likely get worse for a while with robotics.

          Source: Look at world map.

          • @TimeNaan
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            217 days ago

            Robotics are not that great at fighting against insurgencies. Just like most technology, it usually isn’t enough to destroy movements that are popular among the wider population. Look at the Afghanistan war for example.

            • @Lumisal
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              117 days ago

              I should clarify: advanced autonomous robotics.

              • @TimeNaan
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                117 days ago

                Ok, but that’s not the point I was making. I meant that vast technological superiority does not mean military superiority.

                Guerrillas and militias have been very effective at combatting powerful empires throughout history because they have the backing of the populace and can hide and resupply with ease, unlike invading forces.

                This will not change because of a single technological advancement, especially since insurgents can also use this technology themselves.

                • @Lumisal
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                  417 days ago

                  That’s not a single technological advancement though, it’s multiple.

                  But either way, I think it’ll make a difference because it eliminates a big factor that’s always been present:

                  Humans.

                  Autonomous robots would never tire, would be able to maintain themselves to a degree, and the controlling force never has to worry about their loyalty. Also eases stress on the empire’s citizens because they’re not the ones being sent to fight anymore, either. Easier to do the bread and circuses.

                  Hopefully I’ll be wrong about it.