It's starting to look like Merrick Garland wanted Trump dead when he ordered the FBI to raid Mar-a-Lago for those classified docs back in August of 2022.
> MSM would not be villainizing other candidates to this degree because Trump IS a villain.
You’re just parroting #MSM talking points here, not proving that I’m wrong.
> He’s the poster child for scummy businessmen…a caricature, really. I would not be saying the same things because I’ve been well aware of what a selfish asshole Trump is for 20 years…and he’s only gotten worse.
Then why was he so well liked while he was a businessman? Nobody hated him until the #MSM criticized him.
I’m not parroting shit. Like I said, I’ve been following Trump’s shady dealings for 20 years. Clearly you haven’t.
He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.
> He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen I’m not sure if he’s a supremacist, more likely a racial separatist/“race realist”. Wouldn’t be shocked if he’s racist, but yeah #TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion is quite the deep cut, and his alt-right views are probably the only way he even knows what that is (I only know what that is when I started researching the origins of the #Israel v. #Palestine conflict and it came up as I was skimming #Wikipedia)
That’s not how I see it. I used to be a leftist and I know for a fact that all their argumentation is based on ideologies, where an idea is more important than reality.
While Conservative ideas are based on experience and tradition rather than wishful thinking.
Also conservatives understand that if someone else is paying, they are not free.
I will never agree to any similarity between left and right. it’s children’s minds compared to grown ups.
> I socialize with a lot of Leftists. At this point, Right and Left exist in different worlds.
You’d be surprised. #HorseshoeTheory is a thing, but I think there’s also a sort of inverse #HorseshoeTheory where people on the left and right converge on what ordinarily would be centrism or liberalism, but is now considered right wing due to the shifting #OvertonWindow. #Destiny and #BillMaher are two really good examples of this.
My dad grew up in one of trumps dad’s buildings and both of them were scummy businessmen and terrible landlords, Trump sr was convicted of trying to keep black renters out of my dad’s building.
I know a lawyer and a metal fabricator who did work for him and he stiffed them both. The metal fabricator added what he called a “trump fee” for every job after that because trump would never pay the last bill, so he just increased the price of the previous ones.
The “mainstream media” may be bad at a lot of things, but they’re not pulling things out of the air here. Trump is a bad person, and there’s a mountain of evidence to support that if you want to look
> You’re also forgetting that Biden handed those documents over willingly and without delay whereas Trump claimed he didn’t have them and then, when pressured, admitted he did have them but claimed he was allowed to.
So? The law doesn’t care; the criminal activity is having the documents, not refusing to return them or lying about having them.
If you think that Trump is on trial just because he had the documents at all, you clearly are following the case about as much as Trump’s business history…as in… not paying attention at all.
@glimse
> MSM would not be villainizing other candidates to this degree because Trump IS a villain.
You’re just parroting #MSM talking points here, not proving that I’m wrong.
> He’s the poster child for scummy businessmen…a caricature, really. I would not be saying the same things because I’ve been well aware of what a selfish asshole Trump is for 20 years…and he’s only gotten worse.
Then why was he so well liked while he was a businessman? Nobody hated him until the #MSM criticized him.
I’m not parroting shit. Like I said, I’ve been following Trump’s shady dealings for 20 years. Clearly you haven’t.
He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.
@glimse
> He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.
Do you have a source for this?
A source for what exactly? Public opinion?
You don’t have to @ me every time.
@glimse Yes. If it was public, you should be able to find, say three instances of that opinion being espoused.
Unless it was like a super secret public opinion that nobody said out loud?
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@amerika @glimse Pretty sure that was pretty popular in #Russia, and served as the origins for the modern antisemitic conspiracy theories we see today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
You’re talking to a white supremicist.
Their site makes it clear.
That’s the reason they’re citing a racist conspiracy theory.
The mods won’t ban him though, because that’s the kind of user they wish to court.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen I’m not sure if he’s a supremacist, more likely a racial separatist/“race realist”. Wouldn’t be shocked if he’s racist, but yeah #TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion is quite the deep cut, and his alt-right views are probably the only way he even knows what that is (I only know what that is when I started researching the origins of the #Israel v. #Palestine conflict and it came up as I was skimming #Wikipedia)
@realcaseyrollins @glimse
Exactly.
@realcaseyrollins @glimse
As far as I can tell, Trump is popular among a range of social classes but also captured the college-educated conservative vote.
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@truthbait @glimse @realcaseyrollins
Milo is hysterical but he did write one of my favorite editorials:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2015/04/20/tax-the-poor-the-moral-and-economic-case-for-regressive-taxation/
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@truthbait @glimse @realcaseyrollins
Quite possibly true; I have enjoyed Mr Bokhari’s writings on other topics so that would fit.
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@amerika @glimse I would have loved to see him try to find one source corroborating his claim lol
@realcaseyrollins @glimse
I socialize with a lot of Leftists. At this point, Right and Left exist in different worlds.
Choice of media, choice of story of the day (the thing everyone talks about), vocabulary… it’s all different.
So there are things that are not strictly “true” which are taken as fact because they are needed to keep up these political tribal identities.
It’s odd and unnerving but I think only when the two sides are BOTH extremist do we get actual options.
@[email protected] @glimse @realcaseyrollins
That’s not how I see it. I used to be a leftist and I know for a fact that all their argumentation is based on ideologies, where an idea is more important than reality.
While Conservative ideas are based on experience and tradition rather than wishful thinking.
Also conservatives understand that if someone else is paying, they are not free.
I will never agree to any similarity between left and right. it’s children’s minds compared to grown ups.
@amerika @glimse
> I socialize with a lot of Leftists. At this point, Right and Left exist in different worlds.
You’d be surprised. #HorseshoeTheory is a thing, but I think there’s also a sort of inverse #HorseshoeTheory where people on the left and right converge on what ordinarily would be centrism or liberalism, but is now considered right wing due to the shifting #OvertonWindow. #Destiny and #BillMaher are two really good examples of this.
@realcaseyrollins @glimse
I think that’s probably accurate. JFK would be seen as an extreme Right-winger now!
My dad grew up in one of trumps dad’s buildings and both of them were scummy businessmen and terrible landlords, Trump sr was convicted of trying to keep black renters out of my dad’s building.
I know a lawyer and a metal fabricator who did work for him and he stiffed them both. The metal fabricator added what he called a “trump fee” for every job after that because trump would never pay the last bill, so he just increased the price of the previous ones.
The “mainstream media” may be bad at a lot of things, but they’re not pulling things out of the air here. Trump is a bad person, and there’s a mountain of evidence to support that if you want to look
@glimse
> You’re also forgetting that Biden handed those documents over willingly and without delay whereas Trump claimed he didn’t have them and then, when pressured, admitted he did have them but claimed he was allowed to.
So? The law doesn’t care; the criminal activity is having the documents, not refusing to return them or lying about having them.
If you think that Trump is on trial just because he had the documents at all, you clearly are following the case about as much as Trump’s business history…as in… not paying attention at all.
@glimse
> If you think that Trump is on trial just because he had the documents at all
…I don’t? He’s on trial for many things.
@realcaseyrollins @glimse
In fact, it has been non-stop legal cases without anything in common between them except being a presidential candidate.
@glimse
> That’s your man?
No, I’ve been criticizing #Trump during the entire #GOP presidential nomination process
> That’s who you think should run the country?
Not really, but he’s way better than #JoeBiden