This brings the total under this administration to $167 Billion in relief for 4.75 million borrowers.

  • @zeppo
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    17 months ago

    The only way that could possibly effective is if it was paired with comprehensive voting reform in every state (well, every state that matters).

    A third party cannot win with the current first-past-the-post system. It’s so obvious that I can’t imagine why it would need to be explained. Have a good leftist candidate, it’ll take votes from the liberal. Popular conservative alt candidate, will take votes from the Republican. With our current roughly 50/50 balance, either one could result in the candidate with less support for their ideology winning. That’s how you end up with something like (theoretically) 25% Stein, 35% Biden, 40% Trump, and Trump wins because he had the plurality. Great.

    • @goldenlocks
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      17 months ago

      The only way that could possibly effective is if it was paired with comprehensive voting reform in every state (well, every state that matters).

      Yes, we’re working on that unlike the Dems.

      A third party cannot win with the current first-past-the-post system.

      Yeah they can, if you vote for them.

      That’s how you end up with something like (theoretically) 25% Stein, 35% Biden, 40% Trump, and Trump wins because he had the plurality. Great.

      RFK not exist?

      • @zeppo
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        17 months ago

        If EVERYONE who would otherwise vote D voted for them, yes. That’s not going to happen, hence the scenario I gave which you quoted. Split the non-conservative vote between two parties, and the conservatives win - how is that going to help?

        • @goldenlocks
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          17 months ago

          Conservative vote is being split by libertarians and RFK, so it’s a great opportunity for the Green party. Notice how the spoiler argument is never used against the libertarians?

          • @zeppo
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            17 months ago

            It is though. There have been 3rd party conservative spoilers too… it’s just that typically, it’s a Republican plot to fuck over Democrats.

            • @goldenlocks
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              07 months ago

              I’ve never seen it. It’s only Dems making the argument while ignoring the Libertarian party pulls far more Republican voters than the Green party pulls Democratic voters.