• @mojo_raisin
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    16 months ago

    You’re thinking of things wrong and it’s leading you to silly conclusions.

    Voting for president is not about voting for the person that will solve of our problems.

    Stop looking to the state to solve our problems, that is not it’s purpose, it does not have this ability.

    Real problems are solved by people.

    Voting for U.S. president is a strategic choice we’re allowed every four years, choose the option that makes your life and/or job easier. If you’re really concerned about genocide, choose the option for president that will make your job of anti-war activist easier and safer.

    Understand that many of your anti-war allies are LGBTQ, and that if Trump wins, he is almost certainly going to make it much harder for your allies to survive, let alone be activists. Why would you throw your allies under the bus to make an ideological point like 16 people on Lemmy will see?

    • @Maggoty
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      06 months ago

      I don’t know about them but I don’t care about 16 people on Lemmy. I care about 16 people in charge of the democrats. I want them to see they cannot hold power without the left.

      • @mojo_raisin
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        36 months ago

        I want them to see they cannot hold power without the left.

        Ok, I get that, but if the Democrats don’t win, who does? Obviously the Republicans right? Is that an improvement? If Republicans destroy democracy (as they have been crystal clear about), what use is sending messages relevant to electoral politics?

        • @Maggoty
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          06 months ago

          If we can only vote for one party then democracy is already dead. Then what’s the point of voting at all?

          • @mojo_raisin
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            16 months ago

            The point of voting is not to choose the candidate that will fix everything and give up if there isn’t one, it’s to choose the the option that will make your life easier, even if just a little. If you want the world to be a better place, one candidate will make your job risky and dangerous by putting left wingers in prison and supporting right wing violence, the other wont. Why make your life/job harder because you’re upset or frustrated? Why harm your LGBTQ comrades with your apathy?

            Genocide Trump: Yes Biden: Yes

            Make life hell for LGBTQ at home in the U.S. Trump: Yes Biden: No

            • @Maggoty
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              6 months ago

              The Democrats"fix" less and less every time we elect them. The bus isn’t going towards any stops I want to take. It’s going the other way, following the red line. I’ve tried filing complaints but they just go into the void. So I think it’s time for a new bus.

              • @mojo_raisin
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                06 months ago

                So I think it’s time for a new bus.

                Me too, but jumping off a running bus onto flaming mini van full idiots isn’t going to help anyone.

                Everything you hate about Biden is still going to be there under Trump only worse, and Trump is the only other option at this moment. You want better choices in the future, run for office, encourage people to run for office. As long as people like you are encouraging good people to forfeit electoral politics, only the worst people are going to be available as options to vote for.

                • @Maggoty
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                  16 months ago

                  We already had our chances at good people. The Democrats kept that from happening. At this point I’m really starting to believe the only choice is to back up, and protest how we elect presidents in the first place. It doesn’t seem to produce a representative of the people. And the more people tell me I have to vote for Biden because of Boogeyman, the more sure I am.

                  • @mojo_raisin
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                    16 months ago

                    At this point I’m really starting to believe the only choice is to back up, and protest how we elect presidents in the first place. It doesn’t seem to produce a representative of the people.

                    Again, you’re right, how we elect presidents is fucked up and needs to change. Is making that change going to be easier under Trump? Because that’s who’s going to be president if Biden loses. Is changing how we elect presidents going to be easier when anyone willing to be an activist to accomplish it gets arrested? You think protest arrests are bad now, just wait until an actual fascist is in charge and your friends start disappearing.