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It blows our hivemind that the United States doesn’t use the ISO 216 paper size standard (A4, A5 and the gang).

Like, we consider ourselves worldly people and are aware of America’s little idiosyncrasies like mass incarceration, the widespread availability of assault weapons and not being able to transfer money via your banking app, but come on - look how absolutely great it is to be European:

The American mind cannot comprehend this diagram

[Diagram of paper sizes as listed below]

ISO 216 A series papers formats

AO

A1

A3

A5

A7

A6

Et.

A4

Instead, Americans prostrate themselves to bizarrely-named paper types of seemingly random size: Letter, Legal, Tabloid (Ledger) and all other types of sordid nonsense. We’re not even going to include a picture because this is a family-friendly finance blog.

Source: Financial Times

  • @Hobbes_Dent
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    4 months ago

    Do Euro printers say PC LOAD A4?

    I think they probably do.

    I want to only briefly defend the NA system in terms of naming. I get it, I worked in printing for decades, I know how shitty it all can be. But Letter and Tabloid communicate well for something that is otherwise all the fault of press guys.

    • Tar_Alcaran
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      254 months ago

      Well, it’s 2024, so they mostly say things like “out of A4 paper - load A4 paper in tray number 3”. But yeah, they used to.

        • lad
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          94 months ago

          TBF, I only remember messages about “out of paper” or “all trays are empty”. Why specify paper size if the printer accepts different ones, anyway?

          • @[email protected]OP
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            14 months ago

            I’m thinking it lets a tray run out, then you ask it to print on a certain size of paper, and in response it asks for more of that size paper. Then you know which exactly it’s out of. Good for an office too where you don’t know who printed what.

    • Aatube
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      84 months ago

      Well, one still could do it like how many countries transitioned to the metric system: slap the traditional names onto things that are actually now defined by the metric system, like how China’s catty, about 0.60478… kg, became 0.5kg. Just slap “Letter” onto A4.

      • @Hobbes_Dent
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        154 months ago

        That’s going to make some driver developers very upset. And sensors in printer cartridges that can sense both A4 and Letter.

        I say we just balls the whole thing. Screen or pencils.

        • @[email protected]
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          84 months ago

          For technical purposes that need to handle both you can just disambiguate it with “Letter (new)” and “Letter (work or school)”

          • @Infernal_pizza
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            54 months ago

            Is that a subtle dig at Microsoft and their 5 billion different versions of Teams?

    • Kerb
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      54 months ago

      yes, thats why i always was confused when i heared people online talk about pc load letter.

      i kinda assumed it was just an odd way to refer to paper that some manufacturers used

    • Dr. Moose
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      44 months ago

      You really think people are too dumb to remember 2 letter codes that are literally printed on everything? Come on man :D