the main lemmy developers are evil people, and they also admin the lemmy.ml instance. Stay away. other lemmy instances are admired well enough, but look for a mbin instance just to give the lemmy devs less power.
Community development rather than just one guy - Mbin is a community fork of Kbin, made when he refused to share privileges and people got tired of the code always being so far behind.
the kbin developer hasn’t done anything in months (some form of personal issues), and his instance has been offline all week. mbin is actually developed.
I see that there is a lot of posts removed due to breaking Rule 1, but I can’t see what community you posted to to check what rule they claimed you violated.
Please tell me what community you posted in so I can look at the rules and form an unbiased oppinion.
I did find other posts about how lemmy.world admins are terrible, but so far I have only seen anecdotes either way, and untill there are proven trends that tells me otherwise, I will refrain from bashing either side.
Supposedly the modlog is being altered to remove the rejection reasons so that the posts are removed, but via database alterations rather than the traditional process, so a very serious accusation of deceptive admin practices. Someone would need to be running their own instance to see this, and get to the modlog quickly enough, and take screenshots both before and after the event - which reportedly has happened, as described in the comments section of that post.
Separately, regardless of whether the modlog itself is being abused, those admins are reportedly also banning people from communities that they have never commented in, for comments made in other communities. That is a lot easier to see happening, bc the record is retained in that case. And tbh that might even be understandable for reasons of spam or promoting violence or some such, but for merely disagreeing with the statement it is a rather extreme response that represents an abuse of admin power.
Those admins write the Lemmy code - they are worthy of respect for that no matter what. However, they are losing trust in their ability to administer an instance in anything close to a fair manner (vaguely similar to Ernst and Kbin).
I realize that it’s a lot of comments, and it is now spreading to be discussed in multiple posts - e.g. our comments here as well as the linked one - but the screenshots are available if you want to view them. Or indeed, look at the raw modlogs themselves, for the second but not the first issue. You don’t need the community name btw, just OP’s name and the instance (Lemmy.ml) should be sufficient, here this will get you started: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2502607.
Check the mod log yourself. I don’t know how to link it, but it doesn’t take long to find an on topic comment with a ‘right wing’ slant removed in my experience. If right wing comments break rule 1 then I don’t want to be a part of anyplace with rule 1.
Currently, lemmyverse.net doesn’t appear to be indexing mbin servers, which is a drawback for finding communities on them. It isn’t indexing all kbin servers, either, and the kbin results are only available via the hamburger menu, not mixed in with the lemmy results.
Mbin is not lemmy. It interoperates with lemmy but is otherwise different. Thus they strictly should not. Though you can make an arguement they should, it is the decision of the site owners and so while I think they should index mbin I won’t fault them for not.
No, but how many users out specifically want results from one instance type? I can imagine that someone might, but I’m pretty sure that virtually everyone is agnostic.
I don’t think that the lemmyverse.net guys are opposed to it. They did put in kbin support (though it seems to be partly broken ATM). I just think that it hasn’t been updated. And that makes it hard for mbin communities to get visibility.
the main lemmy developers are evil people, and they also admin the lemmy.ml instance. Stay away. other lemmy instances are admired well enough, but look for a mbin instance just to give the lemmy devs less power.
That’s the great part about the fediverse. We’re not bound to a specific app. I like Mbin myself.
BUT they do share their software with everyone entirely for free so there’s that…:-)
Damn commies should be rich as Crassus by now!
That’s a big claim. Do you have evidence?
https://lemmy.world/post/16211417 has some good discussion including evidence. You can normally see evidenc looking at moderation logs as well
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Is there a good/decent android app? I’m game to give things a try particularly because fuck lemmygrad jr (lemmy.ml)
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Rock on, thanks!
What’s the key difference with Kbin?
Community development rather than just one guy - Mbin is a community fork of Kbin, made when he refused to share privileges and people got tired of the code always being so far behind.
the kbin developer hasn’t done anything in months (some form of personal issues), and his instance has been offline all week. mbin is actually developed.
Got it. Yeah I went to take a peek and it looks like it’s more of a community effort. That’s good.
What makes them “evil”?
https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
I see that there is a lot of posts removed due to breaking Rule 1, but I can’t see what community you posted to to check what rule they claimed you violated.
Please tell me what community you posted in so I can look at the rules and form an unbiased oppinion.
I did find other posts about how lemmy.world admins are terrible, but so far I have only seen anecdotes either way, and untill there are proven trends that tells me otherwise, I will refrain from bashing either side.
Supposedly the modlog is being altered to remove the rejection reasons so that the posts are removed, but via database alterations rather than the traditional process, so a very serious accusation of deceptive admin practices. Someone would need to be running their own instance to see this, and get to the modlog quickly enough, and take screenshots both before and after the event - which reportedly has happened, as described in the comments section of that post.
Separately, regardless of whether the modlog itself is being abused, those admins are reportedly also banning people from communities that they have never commented in, for comments made in other communities. That is a lot easier to see happening, bc the record is retained in that case. And tbh that might even be understandable for reasons of spam or promoting violence or some such, but for merely disagreeing with the statement it is a rather extreme response that represents an abuse of admin power.
Those admins write the Lemmy code - they are worthy of respect for that no matter what. However, they are losing trust in their ability to administer an instance in anything close to a fair manner (vaguely similar to Ernst and Kbin).
I realize that it’s a lot of comments, and it is now spreading to be discussed in multiple posts - e.g. our comments here as well as the linked one - but the screenshots are available if you want to view them. Or indeed, look at the raw modlogs themselves, for the second but not the first issue. You don’t need the community name btw, just OP’s name and the instance (Lemmy.ml) should be sufficient, here this will get you started: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2502607.
Check the mod log yourself. I don’t know how to link it, but it doesn’t take long to find an on topic comment with a ‘right wing’ slant removed in my experience. If right wing comments break rule 1 then I don’t want to be a part of anyplace with rule 1.
Currently, lemmyverse.net doesn’t appear to be indexing mbin servers, which is a drawback for finding communities on them. It isn’t indexing all kbin servers, either, and the kbin results are only available via the hamburger menu, not mixed in with the lemmy results.
Mbin is not lemmy. It interoperates with lemmy but is otherwise different. Thus they strictly should not. Though you can make an arguement they should, it is the decision of the site owners and so while I think they should index mbin I won’t fault them for not.
No, but how many users out specifically want results from one instance type? I can imagine that someone might, but I’m pretty sure that virtually everyone is agnostic.
I don’t think that the lemmyverse.net guys are opposed to it. They did put in kbin support (though it seems to be partly broken ATM). I just think that it hasn’t been updated. And that makes it hard for mbin communities to get visibility.
Has anyone forked lemmy yet and if so have instances switched over ?