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- Former President Donald Trump recognized that the price of insulin is lower under President Joe Biden but still tried to take credit for it.
- Trump has lagged Biden on the issue of health care in recent voter surveys.
- Trump spent much of his term trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act, which covers roughly 45 million Americans, without offering an alternative health-care option.
From what actually happened…
Biden “struck it down” waited a couple years, and then when he stopped obstructing it, demanded we call him FDR
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-insulin-epipen/
Biden did not “strike it down”, he halted all EOs not in effect so their administration can review them (see: the first paragraph of the linked article). Instead of re-issuing an EO, something that can be withdrawn on a whim (see: your post), Biden did the actual hard work of working with Congress to help pass the Inflation Reduction Act. The $35 cap is now backed by law rather than by diktat. Trump took the lazy path and issued the EO in the last days of his Presidency - a Presidency he spent quite a long time using to try and repeal the Affordable Care Act.
Try understanding the issue instead of spamming MAGA talking points.
The majority of conservatives are completely incapable of understanding the world at anything except a surface level. They wouldn’t be conservatives in the first place if they had the capacity.
Conservatism and cognitive ability are negatively correlated.
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The issue is some people have become tricked I to thinking of you don’t like Biden then you have to support trump.
It’s an easy way for the wealthy to stop the country from moving left.
Instead of listening and thinking, you just scream “MAGA” if someone doesn’t say Biden is FDR.
The same shit trumpers do.
Likely all comes back to the conservative billionaire from WBs board saying he wants to make CNN more like Faux News. So the “moderates” act like Republicans.
Faux News was created to get republicans voters to the point where they’d never hold a Republican accountable…
It’s been two years, and the moderate CNN watchers are excusing genocide at our border, in the Middle East, and openly denying reality…
I can admit when I’m wrong, I didn’t think “moderates” would fall for it, I thought they’d just stop watching CNN.
If you don’t like being painted as a reich-winger, maybe stop repeating reich-wing talking points and try to think for yourself?
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Mate, just read the article…
If anyone is acting like trumpets, it’s the ones ignoring reality
He only capped it for 1750 patients for 1 year. Biden got it done for everyone
Yep, I’m never a fan of means testing, and that was included in it. Not sure where your numbers are coming from since you didn’t link it tho.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-executive-orders-on-prescription-drugs/
Unfortunately that’s still the case…
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/apr/02/joe-biden/biden-is-right-about-35-insulin-cap-but-exaggerate/
But even if it did do what Biden claims, why pause Trump’s for years?
What about those people that got it under Trump’s means testing and under Biden’s means testing?
Why did Biden not want them to be covered under Trump’s in the meantime?
I’m legitimately trying to find out why, and I’m just not getting any answers.
Trump did start the lower cost of insulin train, but when he started it was only for “1,750 standalone Medicare Part D prescription drug plans and Medicare Advantage plans.” ^(1)
So yeah I guess he started it, but Biden actually did it with his Inflation Reduction Act, which Democratic lawmakers pushed through Congress in 2022. ^(2) (3)
(1) https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/president-trump-announces-lower-out-pocket-insulin-costs-medicares-seniors
(2) https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/01/01/politics/insulin-price-cap
(3) https://www.medicarerights.org/medicare-watch/2023/06/29/the-inflation-reduction-acts-part-b-insulin-price-takes-effect-july-1
Edit: sorry for the format on this one. I copied it from an earlier comment where I was being snarky
You’re like a parody of yourself. Even the snippet you quoted says that the policy was paused to “review new regulations set to go into effect”, and as somebody already tried to tell you, the old executive order about the price was simply replaced with a law.
If you want to tell others they’re ignoring reality you really ought to stop, you know, ignoring reality. Did you even read that quote you copied yourself? If you did, did you understand it? Did you understand what the other commenter said about the price cap now being a law instead of an executive order?
You can now throw your petulant downvote my way and keep insisting everybody else is wrong, apparently that’s all you’re capable of even when quoting sources you yourself dug up
This is why the horseshoe theory is bullshit.
The far right wings of any party are similar. Like, if a Republican shit talks trump, or says what trump is saying isn’t true, they’re called a commie Biden supporter. If a Dem says something isn’t perfect with Biden, or mentions how what he’s saying isn’t true, “moderates” they’re called a fascist trump supporter.
Meanwhile, the bulk of potential voters are so far left, that neither party comes close to represent you.
Big corporations have you out here defending Biden, when we should be protesting him. Just because the only other option they put up for you, is even worse.
Not only did a disappointing amount of people fall for it, both groups are so smug about it for some reason.
Sit down and think about Biden as a candidate sometime, not just as “not trump” because literally every fucking person besides trump is also “not trump”.
Both parties don’t give a fuck about you, or what you want.
And Dems are fine stopping one of the only good things trump ever did, just so a few years later Biden can take credit for it.
Fucking embarrassing
So when proven wrong, rather than defend your point - you change the argument to both sides are the same? You have to see how disingenuous that makes you look. It’s arguing in bad faith it’s why people laugh at you and don’t take you seriously.
Where was I proven wrong?
trump did this, Biden paused it for years, and now people are giving Biden credit and saying trump never did it…
Moderate Dems have been acting like trumpets since 2016, but I never thought we’d get to this level of reality denial.
Which is why I mentioned WB buying CNN and their openly announced plan for it.
I didn’t think they could, but look at this shit
Per your own comments others comments, and the damn article, Trump didn’t do this. Trump took the easy way out and signed an EO. An EO that could be overturned or paused at any time. Biden did the hard work and got a law passed. Laws can’t just be overturned, in fact Jefferson was in favor of a 19 year sunset term on every law that wasn’t part of The Constitution, because laws are so hard to repeal he called it the tyranny of dead generations.
Maybe try to live up to your username, and pay attention when multiple people spell out for you your erroneous feelings with the actual facts?
Cool, so far you’re good
But why did Biden pause it for years, then codify it (apparently, I keep being told Biden has nothing to do with that so stop asking him to).
We don’t even get into why if he did this, he can’t do anything else.
Why did he pause probably the only good thing trump did to codify it? Why was that one of Biden’s first acts?
Why not let Trump’s EO ride until it was passed by law?
Like, you just said:
But why did Biden have to pause that almost immediately after assuming office?
The Biden administration paused all the EOs that Trump signed, not just this one, though it may have been limited to the last year in office. They did so because Trump signed so many EOs in the last few months, that there is absolutely no way that he read them, and someone needed to do so. This one just happened to get caught up in that, and the Biden administration decided to make it so that this one would be permanent. I’m unsure how much Biden himself would have been involved in such decisions.
So…
Your defense of Biden is that he didn’t evaluate anything, just undid Trump’s executive actions?
I’m no sure, do you know if he did that with Trump’s human right violations at our border too? Or did he let that ride?
But your excuse for Biden pausing it for years… Was he just did it to all (or some, you’re not sure) of Trump’s executive actions?
So which is it?
Did Biden know what this was before pausing it?
If he did, why did he pause it?
I’m just looking for some logical consistency, but all I seem to get is insults, and you’re being civil so I really hope you can explain it.
Biden is the most progressive president in the last 50 years. I dare you to name a better president in that time frame. Lmao.
What kind of question is that?
Obama and Bill Clinton where both more progressive than Biden…
Tell us you know nothing about politics without telling us you know nothing about politics…
While the Final Rule implementing EO 13937 was intended to increase access to affordable insulin and epinephrine, it did not fully understand FQHC operations and 340B Program mechanics, nor did it consider the possible negative consequences. If the Final Rule is implemented, it will do more harm than good in terms of ensuring access to care and medications for underserved populations
https://howardbrown.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Public-Comment-on-Proposed-Rescission-of-Executive-Order-13937.pdf
Fucking troll gtfo, or you a bot?