• @TCB13
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    62 months ago

    Will they feature an UEFI?

      • @[email protected]
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        172 months ago

        Without UEFI, the boot process is different for each device, requires a custom boot loader, or at least explicit support by the operating system. Is your laptop going to be supported by the distribution you want to use? What about in 5 or 10 years? With UEFI, the boot process is standardized, so it should just work.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 months ago

          Oh yeah but well instead of using the UEFI we probably should include libreboot or coreboot. But uefi is better than nothing but since its tuxedo we should expect some libreboot

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            1 month ago

            Not “oh yeah” that’s a major concern and the biggest issue with ARM adoption. SBCs and ARM tablets are a mess when it comes to Linux support and one of the biggest reasons for it is the lack of an UEFI. Long term support as said is another very big concern, if you take any x86 box new or old things will work predictably because the OS doesn’t need to know the details of the boot process / low level hardware control.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 month ago

              I mean it should have libreboot or coreboot instead of uefi since its tuxedo afterall. UEFI is better than nothing but libreboot woulf be better

              • @TCB13
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                31 month ago

                I don’t disagree with you, but maybe we can aim for UEFI right now on ALL ARM CPUs/boards from the vendors?

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                  21 month ago

                  But if libreboot or coreboot is first implemented on arm boards, i think many vendors are going to follow up with the same. Then it would be much better since we don’t have to risky remove uefi for libreboot

          • bruhduh
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            11 month ago

            You mean tianocore payload of coreboot/libreboot? That’s uefi

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              11 month ago

              I am probably misunderstanding. So Libreboot does not “replace” UEFI ? Then what’s the point of libreboot

              • bruhduh
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                That it’s open source, vendor uefi is rarely open source, plus coreboot have many other payloads like seabios, uboot, grub

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 month ago

                  I mean if it does not replace uefi which is not open, whats the point. I am asking for libreboot because it is “libre”

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                    11 month ago

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                  • bruhduh
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                    11 month ago

                    Tianocore is in libreboot too

      • bruhduh
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        Because how do you install Linux without ability to choose boot from USB (changing boot order)