• @StructuredPair
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    6 months ago

    I can’t seem to access the first, so I will focus on the second.

    1.) It is a study of Norway, not Sweden.

    2.) The categories all kinda fluctuate, but the specific rates that are higher appear to be non-violent and the largest increase is traffic violations.

    3.) This does not show an increase in crime rates overall as a result of immigration.

    4.) Immigrant communities tend to be overpoliced which may explain increases in non-violent crime rates amongst the immigrant population (see this link detailing how Norwegian police purposefully focused on immigrants over the native population as an example of over-policing: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1362480619873347).

    I likely missed details in this report as I do not read or speak Norwegian, but if I missed something vital, feel free to highlight it.

    • @assassin_aragorn
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      36 months ago

      And now they won’t respond. You’ve done a through job debunking them.

        • @assassin_aragorn
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          26 months ago

          Oh I was just going off of what “just asking questions” xenophobes usually do when their so called evidence is torn apart

      • @StructuredPair
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        56 months ago

        1.) If you spend more time and resources looking for crime in one population than in another, then you are likely to find more crime in the scrutinized population.

        2.) If it is about preserving a culture, there is no need to bring up crime rates.

          • @assassin_aragorn
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            26 months ago

            Edit: forgot to also mention. We’ve had an explosion of gang-rapes towards underage girls (aged ~13-15) lately, done by immigrants of arab background. Makes me uncomfortable to even think about. Can dig up sources if necessary

            Prove that the incidence of these are higher among immigrants than your citizens. Republicans in the US love to talk about illegal immigrants killing and raping people but then become suspiciously silent when Republicans and conservative donors are outed doing the same things.

            I’m guessing that if you look into sexual assault committed by your country’s citizens, you’ll find the incidence rate is actually higher, because the majority of rape victims are raped by people known to them.

      • @[email protected]
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        46 months ago

        Even if crime wasn’t a problem, we should be allowed to protect our culture. Not every country needs to be like USA.

        Culture always changes. The culture of your country has not been like this since the dawn of time. There is no good reason, why it should stay just the way it is right now, only because “that’s the way it always has been” in your memory. Also if the newly arriving people make all of your felloelw countrypeople abandon their old ways, maybe their was something wrong with those traditions to begin with. If you are only worried because the new people will bring their own culture and stick to it, that just adds to the culture and doesn’t take yours away.

        And I’m not even sure why I have to defend myself.

        I personally think one needs really good reasons if one chooses to defend xenophobic policies and puts millions of people under the general suspicion of spreading crime and violence while nearly all of them are just trying to get away from the war and violence in the countries where they are coming from.