• @9point6
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    1156 months ago

    I mean this is dystopian as hell, right?

    Part of the payment for this insurance service is the policy holder’s privacy?

    They’re having to preempt that people are going to be paranoid that they’re going to be flagged as some kind of ne’er-do-well

      • @[email protected]
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        266 months ago

        and we know for a fact that most of these companies have dogshit IT security, doubtless at most of them the janitor can sign in with his corporate ID and access customer data without anyone noticing.

        • @eltrain123
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          6 months ago

          Insurance companies give people discounts based on driving habits good driving habits, like the lack of speeding and hard braking… which can be determined by gps. They also charge more for people that drive more miles per year because it exposes the vehicle to more possibilities of being involved in accidents.

          It’s not unreasonable for them to ask for access to your gps data… it is definitely unreasonable for you to give them access to your gps data.

      • @[email protected]
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        216 months ago

        Yup, this is why in my own vehicles I physically disconnect the system that sends these messages.

        • @[email protected]
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          46 months ago

          What’s a good resource for someone who wants to do this but doesn’t know much about car computer systems?

          • @[email protected]
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            46 months ago

            Automotive groups, forums, clubs that focus on your individual brand of vehicle, or better your specific vehicle.

            Brands generally keep the same style or type of system across their range, so if it works for one car in the brand it is much more likely to work on another.

            My Chevy volt, for example, has a separate controller from the engine controller, and I could just airgap(unplug) it.

            Others you may have to remove the antenna, replacing with a dummy load to not permanently damage the circuits.

    • @tankplanker
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      6 months ago

      UK you have the concept of black box car insurance that offered a substantial discount for having either a dedicated device installed into the car or an app on your phone that tracks a bunch of stats as you drive. It’s as shit as it sounds as it marks you down for every little infringement such as driving at peak times because that’s more dangerous. Get enough points and you can have your policy cancelled. In the UK there are knock on effects for ever having an insurance policy cancelled and you have to legally declare you did when asked.

      While you can uninstall the app good luck making a claim if you don’t have it installed with data for that journey. They’d also be pretty suss with no data over an extended period of a few months.

      Worst part of these is that it’s expensive to switch to a non black box policy when you can afford to as you get older and more experienced.

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        6 months ago

        They have those in the US too.

        Such an obvious scam. “Do this thing that might lower your rates.”*

        ~in 99.99% of cases rates increased~