• @[email protected]
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    655 months ago

    Android can do satellite messaging? Android phone makers are shipping on device LLMs?

    I’m not an Apple fanboy nor do I use an iPhone currently but this headline is ridiculous.

      • @[email protected]
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        235 months ago

        Satellite messaging is already available in Android 15 beta

        Perhaps in software, but I don’t think there is a current phone that has the hardware to take advantage. For now, this is essentially an Apple only feature. It’s a pretty good bet we are going to see some flagships released with it in the next year though.

        • @[email protected]
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          85 months ago

          I know that Pixel 7’s and above support it. There are Reddit posts showing they have the feature already. Satellite messaging is just using standard 4G/LTE from Starlink. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is only an OS update away for most newer phones.

        • @danielfgom
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          15 months ago

          Correct. It needs hardware and will only be on flagships, if the OEM includes it…

          Another nice feature on the latest iPhone is the UWB chip egg even the older models have but now you can find another iPhone 15 user in a crowd if they share their location. The UWB chip will guide you right to them

          I’ve wanted something like this for at least a decade for when my wife and I get separated in the Mall so that instead of calling her to see where she is (and she often doesn’t hear it ringing) I’d be able to just use the phone to lead me to her… Pretty useful in real life. And it also works for your misplaced tracker tile, air pods, iPad etc

          • @[email protected]
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            45 months ago

            And? How many android devices can you name that actually support satellite messaging today? When the feature DOES come on the android side, I imagine it is going to probably be flagship devices as well. Seems to be a silly thing to call Apple out for.

            • @[email protected]
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              25 months ago

              Its been on every Pixel since the 7 I believe, I realize that’s only a couple iterations but its out there.

      • @[email protected]
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        15 months ago

        Android 15 beta… so it’ll be available on phones, out of the box, without anyone having to build/install a custom, on phones actual normal humans buy in about 2030 then.

    • @pycorax
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      135 months ago

      Android phone makers are shipping on device LLMs?

      Do people actually want these?

      • @[email protected]
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        5 months ago

        Yes, in fact that is the only kind of ai i would ever use and entrust my data to. Not the apple one, but an open source model that is running only on my device and answering only to me; using the data I provide only for my interests? That one I would use.

        • Shawdow194
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          25 months ago

          I bet these LLM models wont be 100% locally hosted. I imagine some form of data will be piped back to a cloud server

            • @Cryophilia
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              65 months ago

              “secure” meaning “apple sees all your data”

            • @Glytch
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              55 months ago

              Is that why there are so many celebrity iCloud leaks floating around the internet?

              • @lepinkainen
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                35 months ago

                It wasn’t a software issue, but a human issue. People got scammed and gave their logins away.

                This system is built so that nobody can access it and they’ve went to extreme lengths to make it so. It’s also available for auditing, it hardware and software.

              • @lepinkainen
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                05 months ago

                “It’s a very thoughtful design. Indeed, if you gave an excellent team a huge pile of money and told them to build the best “private” cloud in the world, it would probably look like this.”

                • Matthew D Green, cryptography teacher at Josh Hopkins

                You can go argue with him if you disagree.

      • @[email protected]
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        165 months ago

        LLM is AI correct? If my phone is going to do AI at all, I prefer it be done on device for sure. For privacy reasons if nothing else. But it’s not anything I’ve really looked into. I have the S24 and the only AI feature I use is the Circle to search… which I don’t consider to be AI.

        • @[email protected]
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          25 months ago

          LLM is a form of AI, specifically the text AIs like ChatGPT that have suddenly made “AI” a dinner table term. AI in some form or another is almost definitely being used in your device - even for things like filling in gaps in low-quality voice calls, and probably has been for a while. But the problem is that unlike those “old” AIs, LLMs require some significant power to run, so running them on phones will probably require meaningful trade-offs. But the increased security is also a meaningful benefit.

        • @[email protected]
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          15 months ago

          They add a kinda nifty “copy subject” option that is supposedly local AI stuff to the samsung gallery, fun to mess with

    • @jose1324
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      65 months ago

      “Android phone makers are shipping on device LLMs?”

      …yes?