• @[email protected]
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    -15 months ago

    but fuck making them live through this climate collapse we’ve created

    Even if that’s close enough to make them live through it - that’s how you make a decision of not having kids when somebody thinking “climate collapse is cool, let’s do it” makes a decision to have kids, naturally with such upbringing.

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      I’m not having children to compete with other people. I don’t want to be responsible for bringing a life into this world only to suffer as crops fail and wars for resources rage.

      In America, school teachers are paid shit wages, and guns are everywhere. Quality of life is decreasing as wages stagnate, the rich get richer, and democracy slowly turns into fascism. The oceans are getting hot enough to kill the fish, and they keep getting hotter. Microplastics are literally everywhere, and we’re still learning how bad that is.

      We’ve already passed the Paris Climate Accord global warming limit, and the yearly global greenhouse gas emissions are still increasing to record levels. 1.5C of warming was supposed to be the doomsday limit, but now they say 2C isn’t that bad? The moving target for the global warming limit is a joke, and the poor and impoverished are the punchline.

      Sure, I get the urge to have children, but I’ve already gone through the 7 stages of grief myself about it.

      • @[email protected]
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        -55 months ago

        Since bronze age and till now most humans having children knew they would suffer.

        Having a life is better than not existing in the first place.

        And don’t worry, it’s a self-regulating system and you are on the opposite end of humanity in the sense of being the material for that regulation.

        • @demonsword
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          65 months ago

          Having a life is better than not existing in the first place

          I guess that anyone that has an opinion in this matter is highly biased

          • @njm1314
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            45 months ago

            Nah I exist and I really do have the opposite opinion.

          • @[email protected]
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            -15 months ago

            True. One doesn’t have to explain their choice in having children to others anyway.

            It just feels strange, to have an opportunity to give a child a better life than most of the people on the globe can, to want children, and to choose against.

            • @demonsword
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              55 months ago

              True. One doesn’t have to explain their choice in having children to others anyway.

              I don’t think I’d be a good parent so I decided to not have children. I’m in my forties so this is unlikely to change

              It just feels strange, to have an opportunity to give a child a better life than most of the people on the globe can, to want children, and to choose against.

              The future is bound to suck a lot, so I can understand people who think like that