• Victoria Antoinette
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    111 days ago

    i also explained that free agent’s actions can only be said to be caused by their own will. that means that “demand” can never cause “supply” (nor, truly, the other way around), since both those terms actually reflect the willful actions of free agents.

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      211 days ago

      Ok, I get you now. That’s just obtuse pedantry. If the demand for animal products goes down, so will supply. This gives an individual the power to lower supply, to choose not to has the same overall effect as killing a few animals. The distinction doesn’t matter. Your actions have consequences whether you like it or not. Animal ag cannot survive without money and whenever you buy animal products you are giving it to them.

      • Victoria Antoinette
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        010 days ago

        This gives an individual the power to lower supply,

        no, it doesn’t.

          • Victoria Antoinette
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            010 days ago

            and you can see that we have each presented and equal amount of proof.

              • Victoria Antoinette
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                110 days ago

                you’re the one proposing a causal mechanism. it is on you to provide evidence. simply disbelieving (or suspending judgement) is the only rational course until evidence is provided.

      • Victoria Antoinette
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        010 days ago

        That’s just obtuse pedantry.

        this is a thought-terminating cliche.

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          210 days ago

          Obtuse pedantry is definitely thought terminating. When you just word spaghetti your way out of any argument or dismiss it uncritically instead of actually engaging with it.

          • Victoria Antoinette
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            010 days ago

            my comments are concise, and i don’t require “word spaghetti” to explain flaws in your arguments.

      • Victoria Antoinette
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        011 days ago

        If the demand for animal products goes down, so will supply

        that’s not causal, and, also not what the theory of supply and demand says. the theory says that the price will decrease, not that production will.

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          210 days ago

          That’s why when nobody wanted vhs anymore they just kept making them at the exact same rate for less and less money. They’re still producing billions of vhs players every year and selling them at huge losses because wikipedia said something about supply and demand. You’ve cracked the code, you’re morally in the clear now, you found the magic words that absolve you of all personal responsibility. Hoorayyyyyyyy.

              • Victoria Antoinette
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                110 days ago

                “influences” is a pretty weasley word. show me a formula that actually (as in, verifiably) predicts how “demand” (a pretty weasley word itself) influences supply (probably the only concept for which we will be able to produce quantifiable numbers)