The queer community is pretty split on this topic actually. Some people are pro-peace towards conflicts they hear about online; others are less keen to defend a group that actively would like to see them dead. What a pickle.
me i do i think it’s cool that these leaders are fighting for human rights across the gamut and i appreciate reporters that identify and celebrate this action
in the fight for a free Palestine the “your identity would get you killed in Gaza” has been used as a pro-Israel pro-genocide weapon and erasure of of queer Palestinians. it is objectively good for queer leadership to align itself with other instances of human rights activism.
Because I am an old man and I know what it took to get to where we are today. And watching other unrelated “movements “ try to latch onto gay pride as something to do with it is something quite disingenuous and sickening really.
some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial.
the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation.
Actually, we did get ours and it was a hell of a lot of work. Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights…just getting started. If that means fuck you because I don’t equate a war between Israel and Palestine as the same thing, then yes, “fuck you, Trevor”.
Not a war. It’s a genocide, and it’s Israel that is perpetrating it.
Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights…just getting started
Cool. And you’ll get absolutely nowhere with reactionary sentiment like “fuck you, I got mine” as a part of your movement. The people that want to allow the genocide to continue are the same people actively working to take those rights away from LGBTQ+ people, and they’re not gonna let up just because reactionary twats like you think it’s okay. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the LGBTQ+ community doesn’t even have all of the rights you mentioned, but that’s none of your concern, I’m sure.
The fact is that rights movements and struggles for social justice will continue to largely ignore backward sentiment like yours, as it is necessary for the progress of all of the groups that struggle for them and your attitude toward people other than yourself would only lead to an erosion of those rights.
No, we are not. Sorry but protests outside of LGBTQ+ rights do NOT belong here. Whether you agree or not. Sorry.
solidarity? what’s that?
Did you read the article?
The article describes multiple queer activists and groups supporting BDS as a component of Pride.
The article also describes the direct link between BDS and Pride.
The queer community is pretty split on this topic actually. Some people are pro-peace towards conflicts they hear about online; others are less keen to defend a group that actively would like to see them dead. What a pickle.
Yeah. I generally don’t like people who hate me for being queer, but I also don’t want to see them ‘genocided’.
Exactly.
Who cares what an article says?
me i do i think it’s cool that these leaders are fighting for human rights across the gamut and i appreciate reporters that identify and celebrate this action
solidarity
in the fight for a free Palestine the “your identity would get you killed in Gaza” has been used as a pro-Israel pro-genocide weapon and erasure of of queer Palestinians. it is objectively good for queer leadership to align itself with other instances of human rights activism.
Anyone participating in this discussion in good faith
I am.
you’re not.
encyclopedia britannica definition of “intersectionality”
involvement between feminism and pride
involvement between BLM and pride and another
involvement between the anti war movement and pride
involvement between the civil rights movement and pride
and there are more. you should ask yourself why you think you have the right to pick and choose what movements Pride relates itself with.
Because I am an old man and I know what it took to get to where we are today. And watching other unrelated “movements “ try to latch onto gay pride as something to do with it is something quite disingenuous and sickening really.
some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial.
the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation.
I hope you can learn from someone also.
Vastly more people care about the article more than your uninformed opinion that contradicts reality
Goddamnit Patrick, transgender is not a noun.
“I got mine. Fuck you.”
Actually, we did get ours and it was a hell of a lot of work. Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights…just getting started. If that means fuck you because I don’t equate a war between Israel and Palestine as the same thing, then yes, “fuck you, Trevor”.
Not a war. It’s a genocide, and it’s Israel that is perpetrating it.
Cool. And you’ll get absolutely nowhere with reactionary sentiment like “fuck you, I got mine” as a part of your movement. The people that want to allow the genocide to continue are the same people actively working to take those rights away from LGBTQ+ people, and they’re not gonna let up just because reactionary twats like you think it’s okay. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the LGBTQ+ community doesn’t even have all of the rights you mentioned, but that’s none of your concern, I’m sure.
The fact is that rights movements and struggles for social justice will continue to largely ignore backward sentiment like yours, as it is necessary for the progress of all of the groups that struggle for them and your attitude toward people other than yourself would only lead to an erosion of those rights.
Yes, we are,