• @givesomefucks
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    6 months ago

    Aside from stepping aside, which is risky let’s all admit

    The last Dem incumbent with approval similar to Biden’s was Jimmy Carter…

    Howd his second term go again?

    People keep forgetting that Biden is historically unpopular, he’s not a normal incumbent, he’s one no one wants 4 more years of.

    We just don’t want 4 more years of trump either.

    So the safe bet is running someone Dem voters want.

    Recognition is, I think, very important right now.

    And every American will know Biden’s replacements name in 48 hours of being named…

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      WHO do voters want?

      People keep saying to run someone.

      Who??

      Also, why the fuck do we always start to come together and then find a reason to shit all over ourselves? I’m hard left leaning but like fuck man, it’s hard being covered in verbal shit all the time from all the people that seem so intent on arguing against just coming together. The Republicans can do it, and they’re fucking imbeciles…

      …who keep winning!

      • @givesomefucks
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        WHO do voters want?

        Not trump. And not Biden…

        People keep acting like Dem voters are asking for a perfect candidate, they’re not.

        Whitimer is probably the most likely to get tapped and still win, but AOC would make the 2024 election look like a Harlem Globetrotters game. The DNC just won’t pick a progressive

        Also, why the fuck do we always start to come together and then find a reason to shit all over ourselves?

        Because when we “come together” it’s always progressives holding their noses, moderates getting exactly what they want, and Dem voters not liking what the moderate did once we put them in power.

        Look at Obama, Hillary did the whole PUMA thing, but with a progressive candidate, the moderate wing just isn’t fucking needed.

        The problem is party leadership are all moderates, and only a tiny slice of Dem voters are.

              • @[email protected]
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                The commenter above imo didn’t mean to talk about self-id when they said or implied something like “most (dem) voters are progressive.” They imo meant progressive policies are broadly popular.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    You had me up to this sentence:

                    The popularity of progressive policies is irrelevant.

                    The popularity of progressive policies is the only relevant concern. It’s self-id that is irrelevant.

        • @Carrolade
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          16 months ago

          The DNC does not decide if AOC runs or not, just like they couldn’t choose whether Bernie ran or not. Otherwise they would have.

          AOC decides if AOC runs.

          I don’t share your optimism that she would sweep though, I think she’d come across as too young to a lot of voters. I’m hoping she picks up a Senate seat soon, and then runs from that in the future. I think it’ll put her in a better position to win.