• NutWrench
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    769 days ago

    A country that truly believes in freedom and democracy shouldn’t require you to take a loyalty oath every day.

    • @devfuuu
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      5 days ago

      This whole thing is such a mind fuck and crazy process for people outside merica. I really thought it was a joke on movies, but realising that they are really all brainwashed since children like this makes a lot more sense when you consider everything.

    • Lad
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      199 days ago

      The Conservatives here in the UK wanted to enforce something similar, but in the form of a patriotic song. Everybody just laughed. That would never fly here!

    • Queen HawlSera
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      108 days ago

      It’s almost like if you have to keep telling yourself that you live in a free country, you probably don’t.

    • capital
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      88 days ago

      And we’ve had multiple lawsuits decide exactly that - you do not have to do it.

      • @Anti_Iridium
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        48 days ago

        With this court, all bets are off though.

    • @Alexstarfire
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      19 days ago

      In most schools, it’s not. But they don’t advertise that.

    • @[email protected]
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      -68 days ago

      Counterargument:

      If no one believes or identifies with a nation, that nation will cease to exist.

      • NutWrench
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        88 days ago

        The idea that “things don’t exist when we stop believing in them” is something that most of us outgrow at an early age.

        • @[email protected]
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          58 days ago

          Object permanence applies to tangible objects, basically things explained by physics and constituted from energy.

          A nation is a construct of collective imagination, much like religion and economics.

          National patriotism is a religion which worships dirt.

      • @Passerby6497
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        28 days ago

        If no one believes or identifies with a nation, that nation will cease to exist.

        Don’t threaten me with a good time