The poll, which was conducted from July 7 to July 9, found that 73 percent of Democratic voters “somewhat” or “strongly” approve of Harris as Biden’s replacement. In an earlier iteration of the same survey, conducted from July 3 to July 6, a 66 percent majority of Democrats approved of Harris as a replacement.

  • @Carrolade
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    -12 months ago

    We aren’t “keeping” Biden, the primary process was when other people could run against him and we got to pick. Now that he has secured the nomination, only one person on Earth decides if Biden continues to run or not–Biden himself.

    Unless he gets impeached and removed from office or something, which is not very likely.

    Hell, he even gets immunity for all sorts of possible crimes now, thanks to the Supreme Court.

      • @Carrolade
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        -12 months ago

        No, all they can do is stop donating. They cannot hold a gun to his head and control his actions.

        • @TokenBoomer
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          22 months ago

          That’s why you’re seeing a struggle within the party. It’s over, it’s been over, Biden just hasn’t accepted it yet.

          • @Carrolade
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            02 months ago

            Maybe, I don’t know. I was just shooting down that standard DNC conspiracy theory nonsense. “Donors deciding” is just a step away from “Jews run the world”, with the George Soros conspiracy theories being the step in the middle.

            Common sense dictates that money does not grant you mind control powers, however, just sway.

            • @bostonbananarama
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              12 months ago

              This is an incredibly bad position. Saying that donors decide is nothing like saying “Jews run the world”. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it is a recognition that campaign funds are integral to a presidential election. If Biden can’t bring in money then his campaign will fold.

              • @Carrolade
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                22 months ago

                Biden already possesses a huge amount of donor money, and cannot run again in the future. Additionally, Biden gets almost half his money from small donors.

                https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/small-donors

                Influence gained by donation and control are not the same thing. Influence is real. Control is conspiracy theory bullshit.

              • @Carrolade
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                22 months ago

                I am not saying there is not a shitload of money in politics, it is true there is a ton of corporate money in our politics.

                However, does the money grant control? Yes or no?

                If I give you one billion dollars, you personally, could I then force you to do something you did not want to do? Murder a loved one perhaps? Or resign a presidency you’ve probably wanted your whole life?

                Think about specifics, not vague bullshit. Money does not grant control, people retain their free will. It can only help convince. Lobby. Sway. Influence. Not control.

                That’s the line between reality and conspiracy theory bullshit.

                • @TokenBoomer
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                  Money doesn’t give you control over people, it influences decisions.

                  Why do we pay rent or mortgage? Do the landlords or banks control us, or influence us to pay? Why do cult leaders exists if adherents have “free will?” Are they controlled or manipulated?

                  If money didn’t influence and control politics, we would have gun regulations, healthcare, and climate reform.

                  It’s not a conspiracy theory.

                  • @Carrolade
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                    22 months ago

                    There you go, trying to say control and influence are the same thing again, when they are two separate words with distinct meanings.

                    Why do we really have the system we do? Because only a fraction of Americans are progressive, and far more prefer neo-liberalism for the illusion of freedom it gives. Most voters still consider “the economy” to be the most important issue to them, not any sort of progressive values.

                    Now, part of this is due to corporate-controlled narratives, but it’s still us exercising our free will. You do not have to pay your landlord, you could trek out into the Alaskan wilderness with a backpack and a tent if you really wanted. Nobody would show up with a gun to stop you.