This is my problem with this meme whenever it comes up.
There are so many direct occasions to bring up representation and acceptance in Star Trek, so why do people always jump straight into platonic erasure and make up sexualities that aren’t there?
I for one always loved the ability for people in Trek to work and live close to each other and develop deep friendships without resorting to coupling up. Turning every friendship into something more romantic just seems disrespectful, because people are perfectly capable of being friends without needing to make something more of it
Babe, this ‘platonic erasure’ comes from the original airings.
It was the 90’s, we were starved of everything. There was no overt representation. The comm still operated heavily in code, so if a show threw us circumspection we read between the lines.
You got Jadzia’s kiss, you got Riker and the androgynous species, and all of Intendant Kira.
I’m not saying those few cases are enough representation (Kira being arguably a bad example, making her sexuality into a more “evil” trait), but they were definitely overt. On the other hand, there’s zero basis for saying Prime Kira was bi, and Doctor Twink was quite straight, no matter how gay Garak was.
Honestly, I thought Julian and Garak was perfectly executed. Garak may have been flirty, but Julian was obviously more enamored with the spy scenario and intrigue (as we delved deeper into in Our Man Bashir and to some degree, the Section 31 episodes).
Oh a kiss in a doomed relationshipl! An evil, abusive dictator and another doomed romance that ended in what was essentially a lobotomy! Our cups truly ranneth over
Got nothing else so you resort to insults? Poor form.
I really get the feeling you were not queer in the 90’s, and you’re trying to backfill what it was like. As someone who was (and still is, well the queer part at least) you’re getting it terribly wrong
Are we head canoning Kira as bi now or is she including mirror universe Kira in this? Or maybe I missed something in several watches.
This is my problem with this meme whenever it comes up.
There are so many direct occasions to bring up representation and acceptance in Star Trek, so why do people always jump straight into platonic erasure and make up sexualities that aren’t there?
I for one always loved the ability for people in Trek to work and live close to each other and develop deep friendships without resorting to coupling up. Turning every friendship into something more romantic just seems disrespectful, because people are perfectly capable of being friends without needing to make something more of it
Babe, this ‘platonic erasure’ comes from the original airings.
It was the 90’s, we were starved of everything. There was no overt representation. The comm still operated heavily in code, so if a show threw us circumspection we read between the lines.
You got Jadzia’s kiss, you got Riker and the androgynous species, and all of Intendant Kira.
I’m not saying those few cases are enough representation (Kira being arguably a bad example, making her sexuality into a more “evil” trait), but they were definitely overt. On the other hand, there’s zero basis for saying Prime Kira was bi, and Doctor Twink was quite straight, no matter how gay Garak was.
Honestly, I thought Julian and Garak was perfectly executed. Garak may have been flirty, but Julian was obviously more enamored with the spy scenario and intrigue (as we delved deeper into in Our Man Bashir and to some degree, the Section 31 episodes).
Oh a kiss in a doomed relationshipl! An evil, abusive dictator and another doomed romance that ended in what was essentially a lobotomy! Our cups truly ranneth over
I guess your attention span ran out after four words, so you ignored the rest of the explanation
But that’s a you problem
Got nothing else so you resort to insults? Poor form.
I really get the feeling you were not queer in the 90’s, and you’re trying to backfill what it was like. As someone who was (and still is, well the queer part at least) you’re getting it terribly wrong
It’s not “nothing else”, you just ignored the rest of what I said. Literally everything in your last post was already addressed in what I said
If you took that as an insult, well… I’ve already said it.
I like your speech. Let’s fuck.
People are weird. Trying to see things that aren’t there. Because…? Hell if I know. I’m just here for the shows. Not to question who might bang who.
Mirror Kira is only bold enough to do what regular Kira couldn’t. We all know she thought about it.