I agree and I drive a Tesla, unfortunately it’s paid off so for the time being it just makes sense to keep driving it because it costs me basically nothing.
Those bumper stickers are bullshit. Musk was a nut job who profited from apartheid and then bought his way into the public mind as some kind of low rent Tony Stark from the get. San Francisco 2012 people thought I was nuts for claiming he was a huge charlatan and now those same people rock those bumper stickers.
Despite Musk, Teslas did have some positive effect as they helped push electric car adoption. The big automakers were not interested in taking risks, and nobody was eager to build out large charger networks.
I certainly don’t credit Musk himself for it, but no one should feel ashamed of having bought one of those cars back then. Today there are other good options for electric vehicles from companies run by slightly less bad people, but let’s not kid ourselves. Everything we buy comes from some company that is enriching monsters…it’s just that some of them are more monstrous than others.
Just because shitheads run companies didn’t mean you can’t enjoy & appreciate the actual work, design, creation of brilliant, hard working people that made the actual product.
Musk never made anything. Nothing new, anyway. He made a hostile collar workplace noose and roped a group of companies into our modern, uncontested (except by unions) version of slavery.
The people at Tesla are groundbreakering pioneers of the future of transportation. Unfortunately, they’re not geniuses about how to properly deal with a strangling grifter owner.
That kind of terrible management, terrible treatment of people, workers is rampant across (most?) all companies.
Musk just screwed the best of the brightest lights on the road to the future. Fucked everybody harder than the other CEOs cause, well, as others mention, he was born to it (Emerald apartheid slave driver heritage).
What’s sick is that what he did at Twitter was something many in the C-suite were in some cases privately cheering, and, in places where they were permitted, wanted to openly emulate. Sure, the excuse was that (some) companies overstaffed in the early covid days, but at X, they cut things to the bone and beyond when Musk took over, and it mostly seemed to be ideologically driven (“own the libs” but also, and this is the part others want to do as well, and in some cases, did: “crush those uppity tech workers”). This, combined with AI, was providing a beacon of hope to the corporate overlords eager to make even more undeserved money.
In many countries outside of the US, Musk isn’t a well known figure, and people buying a Tesla don’t have to know who is the CEO any more than who is the CEO of any other car manufacturer.
Effecting change in this world sometimes requires personal sacrifice. Things are the way they are because too many don’t want to inconvenience themselves. Downvote away.
I agree and I drive a Tesla, unfortunately it’s paid off so for the time being it just makes sense to keep driving it because it costs me basically nothing.
But I feel like a POS in public and it sucks.
I’m sure there is a bumper stick that’s says “I got this before musk was crazy”
Those bumper stickers are bullshit. Musk was a nut job who profited from apartheid and then bought his way into the public mind as some kind of low rent Tony Stark from the get. San Francisco 2012 people thought I was nuts for claiming he was a huge charlatan and now those same people rock those bumper stickers.
Despite Musk, Teslas did have some positive effect as they helped push electric car adoption. The big automakers were not interested in taking risks, and nobody was eager to build out large charger networks.
I certainly don’t credit Musk himself for it, but no one should feel ashamed of having bought one of those cars back then. Today there are other good options for electric vehicles from companies run by slightly less bad people, but let’s not kid ourselves. Everything we buy comes from some company that is enriching monsters…it’s just that some of them are more monstrous than others.
True enough.
Just because shitheads run companies didn’t mean you can’t enjoy & appreciate the actual work, design, creation of brilliant, hard working people that made the actual product.
Musk never made anything. Nothing new, anyway. He made a hostile collar workplace noose and roped a group of companies into our modern, uncontested (except by unions) version of slavery.
The people at Tesla are groundbreakering pioneers of the future of transportation. Unfortunately, they’re not geniuses about how to properly deal with a strangling grifter owner.
That kind of terrible management, terrible treatment of people, workers is rampant across (most?) all companies. Musk just screwed the best of the brightest lights on the road to the future. Fucked everybody harder than the other CEOs cause, well, as others mention, he was born to it (Emerald apartheid slave driver heritage).
What’s sick is that what he did at Twitter was something many in the C-suite were in some cases privately cheering, and, in places where they were permitted, wanted to openly emulate. Sure, the excuse was that (some) companies overstaffed in the early covid days, but at X, they cut things to the bone and beyond when Musk took over, and it mostly seemed to be ideologically driven (“own the libs” but also, and this is the part others want to do as well, and in some cases, did: “crush those uppity tech workers”). This, combined with AI, was providing a beacon of hope to the corporate overlords eager to make even more undeserved money.
Ok so people didn’t know, that doesn’t make them bad people and it doesn’t make you as smart as you think you are.
If people ignore how shitty someone is, they are, in fact, bad people if they support their business.
I’m sorry but I have no idea who is the CEO, of say, Nissan or whatever, and I’m sure 99% of buyers don’t research that.
There are. I’ve seen them.
Yes, that’s called a Confederate flag. If you buy one after 2019, then it’s a Nazi flag.
Well fucking stop feeling like a POS.
Please?
Its just a car, and regardless of who elon turned out to be.
And ya know what? Elon is the reason they arent better cars. He is not the reason they are as good as they are.
Take politics out of it for a minute and just remind or consider, how is your tesla a better car than the ICE car you did and/or would have instead.
You can feel good about that. Its okay. Elon is a piece of shit. He didnt always seem that way and that does suck. You dont, he does.
When you decide to get a new car you are going to have so many awesome options next time.
And you wouldnt have those options then, if Teslas werent/hadnt pushing everyone else in the world into getting away from ICE
Oh! Hey…
Thanks. Just what I needed for the day (from one of my favorite fellow Rocky Mountains crews).
You should be ashamed of yourself
Yes. They should be. Fuck the downvotes, I’m done with this shit.
Sell your fucking Tesla if you own one. It’s a dog whistle.
In many countries outside of the US, Musk isn’t a well known figure, and people buying a Tesla don’t have to know who is the CEO any more than who is the CEO of any other car manufacturer.
Effecting change in this world sometimes requires personal sacrifice. Things are the way they are because too many don’t want to inconvenience themselves. Downvote away.